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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby Vader » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:45 am

I'll reserve judgement on Kesler until the "Five game introspective" thread is started
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby The Brown Knight » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:31 am

Island Nucklehead wrote:Frankly, the Canucks have bought into the hype that they are still an offensive machine.


The Canucks players or Canuck fans?

From what I see - the players aren't overestimating their offensive prowess at all.......and are attempting to play a very tight defensive checking style. If anything, I sometimes think they overdo it.

I agree with the rest of your comments.
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby herb » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:34 am

Four games in, we’re missing three regular forwards, and we’re already looking for ways to “save” Ryan Kesler?

Kesler will be fine. He’ll get his points just as much as Jason Garrison won’t be a point a game player through 82 games. I’ll reserve judgment on how much this team will be able to score until at least the ¼ point. As of right now, 15 goals in 4 games played is excellent production.
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:54 am

Vader wrote:I'll reserve judgement on Kesler until the "Five game introspective" thread is started

Lol. Wasn't that a buddy of dbr's that used to give us those quality introspectives ? Mr Juggalo perhaps ?
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby Art Vandelay » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:32 am

Kesler looks a lot slower this season. I would be curious to see if he ever regains his speed from his previous seasons before the groin tear against the Sharks. He still seems a bit tenative in his stride.
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby Tciso » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:38 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:Frankly, the Canucks have bought into the hype that they are still an offensive machine. They are not. They have a deep, talented defence, they have quality goaltending, and they have two all-world offensive talents that require timely scoring help. Kesler is part of that scoring help, but imo his real value is his ability to play against the top oponnents, thus freeing the Sedins to do their thing. As long as he stays even or above the line he is checking, it's a Win for the Canucks.


I agree that we are not an offensive juggernaut, but, we do have a lot of offensive tools. The Twins are top 10 forwards. And, Kesler, Burrows Higgins and Hansen are all 20 goal scorers. And, we still have the wild cards in Kassian and Booth and Santorelli. In my opinion, we have a solid top 9, that -can- be an offensive powerhouse, but we lack depth outside the top 9. Plus, I see Torts has let our defense step up more than AV did. That should be good for anouher 20 goals a year (and 15 more goals against too).
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby dbr » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:48 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Vader wrote:I'll reserve judgement on Kesler until the "Five game introspective" thread is started

Lol. Wasn't that a buddy of dbr's that used to give us those quality introspectives ? Mr Juggalo perhaps ?


I think this season I blamed it on Klatt and someone with a better memory corrected me..
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby SKYO » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:19 pm

herb wrote:Four games in, we’re missing three regular forwards, and we’re already looking for ways to “save” Ryan Kesler?

Kesler will be fine. He’ll get his points just as much as Jason Garrison won’t be a point a game player through 82 games. I’ll reserve judgment on how much this team will be able to score until at least the ¼ point. As of right now, 15 goals in 4 games played is excellent production.

Not "save" jump-start!

I think we can all agree we missed the in-his-prime Kesler from his Selke trophy year as we haven't seen it since!

That's two frickin' long years to wait for Kesler to come around, I'm just hoping we can get our old Kesler back asap!

And yes RD, RK17 will come back into form I'm sure!

Kesler just needs to start playing more in front of the net and let Higgins be the playmaker or on the powerplay let the sedins and jg/eddie control the puck.

And in his best season, we had a horse of defensive center in Manny help take over some of the defensive duties, letting Kesler free to rip shit up on opposing teams, this is when we were steamrolling over teams and swept SJ aside like a little bitch. And now we don't have that, and SJ has won 10 straight vs this team that has had an injury riddled Kesler and no bonafide 3rd to speak of.

Which is why I wanted Shawn Matthias on our 3rd line to get this type of well balanced attack back, but that's another topic.
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby Tiger » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:02 am

the 2011 Kesler had Torres, Samuelsson and sometimes Burrows on the wings.. Not Higgins n Hansen or Booth.
Maybe after Burrows comes back from injury he will be put on the 2nd line.. and then we will see a chainge..
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby The Brown Knight » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:51 am

Tiger wrote:the 2011 Kesler had Torres, Samuelsson and sometimes Burrows on the wings.. Not Higgins n Hansen or Booth.
Maybe after Burrows comes back from injury he will be put on the 2nd line.. and then we will see a chainge..


Hence, my Thomas Vaneck trade suggestion.

I definitely agree with your post however. If you're going to use Kesler in an offensive role, you need to give the guy some decent playmates.

If management isn't going to do this, then you're better off either using Kesler in a 'defense first' type role where he can score on turnovers, or, just playing him alongside the twins on regular 5 on 5 shifts......and thereby, putting 'all the eggs' in one basket to the point where even a concerted effort on the opposing teams' part would have trouble containing the one mega line.
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby Art Vandelay » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:37 am

Tiger wrote:the 2011 Kesler had Torres, Samuelsson and sometimes Burrows on the wings.. Not Higgins n Hansen or Booth.
Maybe after Burrows comes back from injury he will be put on the 2nd line.. and then we will see a chainge..


Kesler didn't play with Torres. Torres played with Manny and Hansen.
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby SKYO » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:48 am

Guess you all can thank me for Kesler getting back into beast mode alllll thanks to this thread. :lol:

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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby Hank » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:10 pm

I think you can all thank those weak-minded sisters who don't have the wherewithal to be truly elite players. They are really struggling to adapt under a tough demanding coach and a hard-nose system that requires the will and grit that these will never ever have (<- sound familiar?)

Need to jump start someone? Put em on their line. Need to jump start a couple of lines? Break em up. Need a jump to your dead battery? They'll do it without cables.
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby BurningBeard » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:48 pm

Hank wrote:Need a jump to your dead battery? They'll do it without cables.

How does this work? Hank puts the positive terminal in his mouth, Dank does the negative, and they blow?
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

Postby Hank » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:07 pm

BurningBeard wrote:
Hank wrote:Need a jump to your dead battery? They'll do it without cables.

How does this work? Hank puts the positive terminal in his mouth, Dank does the negative, and they blow?


They're sisters. They probably each sit on a terminal...
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