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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:10 pm

Okay Islander, you're officially an ass.

You may trust your interpretation of the massive CBA, but I'll go with the general consensus thanks.

Gee I wonder why a smart guy like Gillis (a lawyer!) felt the need to hire a "capologist"...

For your information I get my information from news articles.

There are hundreds of them available online about this.

http://articles.philly.com/2013-09-12/sports/41974246_1_cleary-scott-laughton-schenn

Chris Pronger ($4.91 million) and Marc-Andre Bourdon ($612,500) are likely to be added to the long-term injury list. Bourdon, like Pronger, has been suffering from concussion-like symptoms for more than a year.

The only issue is that the Flyers must carry both Pronger and Bourdon on the opening-day salary cap before receiving their combined $5.5 million cushion on Day 2.


This is common knowledge among Flyer fans (and hardcore fans in general).

But nooooo, you just keep trusting your own personal interpretation of the CBA. :thumbs:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby BigTuna » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:32 am

Strangelove wrote:
BigTuna wrote:Just because Rielly is the only one you know about, doesn't make him the only good one. Teams would love to get their hands on guys like Biggs, Percy, Finn, Leivo, ETC.


I probably know more about them than you do.

See I'm am an extremely dedicated Leaf-hater.

I do my research.

Trust me, they all suck.


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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Vader » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:13 am

Strangelove wrote:Okay Islander, you're officially an ass.

You may trust your interpretation of the massive CBA, but I'll go with the general consensus thanks.

On the subject of the Flyers.....

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/frequentflyers/Trade-in-works-for-Flyers.html

It’s important to note that the first day of the salary cap begins Monday afternoon - and the Flyers’ first game isn’t until Wednesday against Toronto. Meaning, many expected the Flyers to simply make a “paper transaction” and send waiver exempt forwards Brayden Schenn and Sean Couturier to the Phantoms for the first day and re-call them on the second.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/freq ... UHAXAcC.99
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:06 pm

Just to drive my point a little further home...

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/frequentflyers/Trade-in-works-for-Flyers.html#sAE7B7HQ2XWe5441.99

It doesn’t take a mathlete to understand that the Flyers are currently over the NHL’s $64.3 million salary cap with Chris Pronger on the roster. Pronger will not play again, but the Flyers must retain his salary cap hit on their roster for the first day of the season before he can be move to the long-term injury list.


http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philade ... ary-roster

Remember, the Flyers can’t utilize Chris Pronger’s LTIR money — $4.921 million — until the season starts in October. Pronger has to be on the official roster that goes into the league office on Sept. 30


http://www.whizwitsports.com/1/post/201 ... trade.html

No, putting Chris Pronger on Long-Term Injured Reserve (LTIR) is not an option. They can only do that once the season starts and they cannot begin the season over the salary cap.


http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/5 ... -plan.html

It's expected the Flyers will start the season by placing defensemen Chris Pronger ($4.91 million) and Marc-Andre Bourdon ($612,000) on long-term injured reserve, which would provide salary cap relief as well as room to officially announce Cleary's new contract. The problem is the Flyers “must carry both Pronger and Bourdon on the opening day salary cap” before receiving their cap relief, starting on Day Two.


http://nhl.si.com/category/boston-bruins/

Flyers don’t want to risk losing his intimidating presence, they could demote forward Brayden Schenn for a game and then call him back up for Game 2 after putting defenseman Chris Pronger and his $4,941,929 contract on long-term injured reserve.


http://spectorshockey.net/blog/latest-l ... r-28-2013/

It’s believed the Flyers will simply make a “paper transaction” by demoting Sean Couturier and Brayden Schenn (who are waiver-exempt) for one day, then recall them after placing Chris Pronger on LTIR (as he must appear on their opening day roster before he can be placed on injured reserve)


Islander is an ass and the Great Strangelove is an asshole. :mrgreen:

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:09 pm

BigTuna wrote:Great breadown of the Leafs prospects. Thank you.


No problem, I wouldn't want you to get your hopes too high. :thumbs:

Perhaps at another time in another thread we can discuss Leaf prospects in detail.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:12 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Strangelove wrote:Seriously, Liles + his contract = so horrible I just can't see this happening with the crappy Leaf prospects.


You don't think Colorado (10M in cap space) would take Liles if he came with Tyler Biggs or Joe Colbourne for a guy like Desbiens?


I have to say that Colorado is the ONLY place I can see Liles getting traded

(past history there, still has off-season home there, Avs have cap-space, Avs need another dee)

BUT

the Leaves would ALSO have to eat half of Liles' contract imesho (ever so).
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Island Nucklehead » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:46 pm

Vader wrote:
Strangelove wrote:Okay Islander, you're officially an ass.

You may trust your interpretation of the massive CBA, but I'll go with the general consensus thanks.

On the subject of the Flyers.....

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/frequentflyers/Trade-in-works-for-Flyers.html

It’s important to note that the first day of the salary cap begins Monday afternoon - and the Flyers’ first game isn’t until Wednesday against Toronto. Meaning, many expected the Flyers to simply make a “paper transaction” and send waiver exempt forwards Brayden Schenn and Sean Couturier to the Phantoms for the first day and re-call them on the second.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/freq ... UHAXAcC.99


Yep. That's how it will work. Like I've said all along Pronger will (or at least could) go on LTIR on the first day of the season, which is October 1.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:47 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:Like I've said all along Pronger will (or at least could) go on LTIR on the first day of the season, which is October 1.


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What part of "on the second (day)" did you not understand?

And what about all my links??

Also:

Island Nucklehead wrote:http://www.capgeek.com/faq/how-does-lon ... -LTIR-work

The upper limit is $70.0 million and a team has a cap payroll or "Averaged Club Salary" of $71.5 million on the final day of training camp. Player A, carrying a $2.0 million cap hit, is placed on LTIR that day.

So, every Flyers fan SHOULD read this.


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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:51 pm

LOL the Leaves are running with an AHL lineup + Franson + Liles + Reimer.

They called up almost EVERYONE from the Marlies!

Obviously they realize how completely screwed they are if they pick up another injury.

Except for Liles of course, they want Liles to get injured!

They had to get Franson in a game and Reimer was promised this one.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a target sewn on Liles' back.

Look for him get 25 minutes tonight! :lol:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:51 pm

Okay looks like Kadri and Raymond are out there (weren't in the lineup in earlier media reports).

BREAK A LEG KADRI!! :twisted:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:45 pm

RoyalDude wrote:Tom Wilson in Washington is having a great pre-season in Washington, scoring goals and fighting galore...

Would you trade Zack Kassian straight up for this guy? I would



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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby SKYO » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:13 pm

say waa?
Colborne to Flames for a 4th round pick.

The Toronto Maple Leafs have traded centreman Joe Colborne tonight to the Flames in exchange for Calgary’s own fourth-round pick in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft. The pick can be upgraded to a third-round pick in 2014 if certain conditions are met in the upcoming season

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=684669
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Badfish » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:31 am

SKYO wrote:say waa?
Colborne to Flames for a 4th round pick.

The Toronto Maple Leafs have traded centreman Joe Colborne tonight to the Flames in exchange for Calgary’s own fourth-round pick in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft. The pick can be upgraded to a third-round pick in 2014 if certain conditions are met in the upcoming season

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=684669


First thing I thought was "would've jumped on that for a 4th rounder. Big young centreman can't hurt. Like the size.

Also interesting trade, we shed Tochkin and gain forwards Zac Dalpe and Jeremy Welsh? Sounds like a good albeit minor move, Tochkin didn't have a future with us and these guys at least give us Comets-fodder with some size.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013 ... er=ya5nbcs
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Arbour » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:05 am

It seems Welsh was a salary dump by Carolina ($1.0 mil one way contract), Utica bound. The interesting one is Dalpe. He is a center man but has played wing with Carolina since they are deep at center, but is waiver eligible,($550,000 one year two way deal) so it seems he may be getting a look with the Canucks. The upshot appears Carolina had to add Dalpe in order for the Canucks to take on Welsh's contract for a fourth and Tochkin another AHLer.

It would make no sense to trade for Dalpe to immediately lose him on waivers, so one could speculate at this point that when the smoke clears and the suspended players return, Richardson is slotted in on the wing, Santorelli at one of the center positions, with Dalpe and Schroeder at the other, assuming Horvat/Shinkaruk return to junior.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Island Nucklehead » Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:52 am

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