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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby SKYO » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:32 pm

Jovocop wrote:Is Booth still considered expensive?? At least Booth can hit hard and play defense... :mrgreen:

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#Sabres Hodgson's new 6 year #NHL deal is worth 25.5M. Cap hit of 4.5M.


Kadri 99GP 26G 37A +13, 0.64ppg $2.9m per season x 2
Hodgson 139GP 35G 42A -2, 0.55ppg $4.5m per season x 6

All of a sudden, Nonis looks like a genius... :lol:


Hodgson will be a point producing machine with some clutch goals, and that's about it.
$4.5M per will be decent in a few years especially if Vanek stays.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Jovocop » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:50 pm

SKYO wrote:
Jovocop wrote:Is Booth still considered expensive?? At least Booth can hit hard and play defense... :mrgreen:

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper
#Sabres Hodgson's new 6 year #NHL deal is worth 25.5M. Cap hit of 4.5M.


Kadri 99GP 26G 37A +13, 0.64ppg $2.9m per season x 2
Hodgson 139GP 35G 42A -2, 0.55ppg $4.5m per season x 6

All of a sudden, Nonis looks like a genius... :lol:


Hodgson will be a point producing machine with some clutch goals, and that's about it.
$4.5M per will be decent in a few years especially if Vanek stays.


I understand that Kadri has a bridge contract and that is why the $ is not high. I just don't understand why the Sabres would sign Hodgson to a 6-yr contract when he really hasn't earned it like Kadri.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Tciso » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:19 pm

Jovocop wrote:
I understand that Kadri has a bridge contract and that is why the $ is not high. I just don't understand why the Sabres would sign Hodgson to a 6-yr contract when he really hasn't earned it like Kadri.



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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Meds » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:35 pm

Madcombinepilot wrote:When Brad Boyes ( 35 points last year) has a PTO and no contract, Manny will be hard pressed to even get that..

Unfortunately, Manny is a victim of timing.


When it comes to getting a contract and a chance to play hockey professionally, I have difficulty assigning the label of "victim" to any professional hockey player who has already made millions of dollars playing a game.

Malhotra is a victim of a bad injury, no question.

But really, when you assign the label of a victim to people who suffered and died during the holocaust, or some of the innocents of the war torn middle east, then using that label to describe a guy who just can't get a minimum six figure contract just seems to be too much of a stretch.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Madcombinepilot » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:24 pm

Meds wrote:
Madcombinepilot wrote:When Brad Boyes ( 35 points last year) has a PTO and no contract, Manny will be hard pressed to even get that..

Unfortunately, Manny is a victim of timing.


When it comes to getting a contract and a chance to play hockey professionally, I have difficulty assigning the label of "victim" to any professional hockey player who has already made millions of dollars playing a game.

Malhotra is a victim of a bad injury, no question.

But really, when you assign the label of a victim to people who suffered and died during the holocaust, or some of the innocents of the war torn middle east, then using that label to describe a guy who just can't get a minimum six figure contract just seems to be too much of a stretch.



A stretch of what?!? Vocabulary?

Victim

1
: a living being sacrificed to a deity or in the performance of a religious rite
2
: one that is acted on and usually adversely affected by a force or agent <the schools are victims of the social system>: as
a (1) : one that is injured, destroyed, or sacrificed under any of various conditions <a victim of cancer> <a victim of the auto crash> <a murder victim> (2) : one that is subjected to oppression, hardship, or mistreatment <a frequent victim of political attacks>
b : one that is tricked or duped <a con man's victim>
— vic·tim·hood noun
See victim defined for English-language learners »
See victim defined for kids »


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/victim


Seeing as most rational humans living in the west don't see Nazi Germany as a religion, I guess we will go with the second interpretation of the word, shall we?? (Rational people call it "context")
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:39 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:I think Franson takes a similar deal. They can still trade JML to a team that needs the cap and a D'man. Look for a deal similar to the Ehrhoff to Vancouver deal.


Ehrhoff was just beginning to blossom having just turned 27 and had 2 years left on his contract.

JML is damaged goods and will be 33 in November with 3 years left on his contract.

Dave Poulin even admitted Liles has not been the same player since his concussion in December 2011.

No way does Nonis find a team to dump JML upon.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Per » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:44 pm

Former Canuck Hedberg on a try out contract with NYR after being bought out by NJ.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby dbr » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:42 am

Madcombinepilot wrote:Seeing as most rational humans living in the west don't see Nazi Germany as a religion, I guess we will go with the second interpretation of the word, shall we?? (Rational people call it "context")


No I am pretty sure everyone thought you were equating Manny to a 1930s Polish Jew and the CBA to Hitler until Meds rode in and saved the day. :lol:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby dbr » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:44 am

ukcanuck wrote:So WTF
Now Florida realizes they got shit for goalies and theyre after Tim Thomas out of retirement!?!?!??

I thought dale tallon was supposed to be a smart hockey guy...


Tallon is a(n arguably) smart hockey guy on a budget. And I am preeeeetty darn sure Tim Thomas will cost them a shade under the $40m they would have had to commit to Roberto Luongo.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Rayxor » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:59 am

dbr wrote:No I am pretty sure everyone thought you were equating Manny to a 1930s Polish Jew and the CBA to Hitler until Meds rode in and saved the day. :lol:

And just in time, I might add. I was about to call the RCMP Hate Crime department.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby ukcanuck » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:24 am

dbr wrote:
ukcanuck wrote:So WTF
Now Florida realizes they got shit for goalies and theyre after Tim Thomas out of retirement!?!?!??

I thought dale tallon was supposed to be a smart hockey guy...


Tallon is a(n arguably) smart hockey guy on a budget. And I am preeeeetty darn sure Tim Thomas will cost them a shade under the $40m they would have had to commit to Roberto Luongo.

There is no other way to describe pursuing Thomas than a pure scramble to find a legit NHL goalie. The guys a year out of the game and old as the tea bags floating in Boston harbour.

Luongo would have been a great fit end of story
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby ukcanuck » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:28 am

Meds wrote:
Madcombinepilot wrote:When Brad Boyes ( 35 points last year) has a PTO and no contract, Manny will be hard pressed to even get that..

Unfortunately, Manny is a victim of timing.


When it comes to getting a contract and a chance to play hockey professionally, I have difficulty assigning the label of "victim" to any professional hockey player who has already made millions of dollars playing a game.

Malhotra is a victim of a bad injury, no question.

But really, when you assign the label of a victim to people who suffered and died during the holocaust, or some of the innocents of the war torn middle east, then using that label to describe a guy who just can't get a minimum six figure contract just seems to be too much of a stretch.


Lol the ambulance driver has trouble seeing someone as a victim...
Probably should work on your empathy skills on your next course there Meds :)
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby dbr » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:02 am

ukcanuck wrote:There is no other way to describe pursuing Thomas than a pure scramble to find a legit NHL goalie. The guys a year out of the game and old as the tea bags floating in Boston harbour.


You're right.

Luongo would have been a great fit end of story


You're right.

Luongo [and his contract], on the other hand...
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Arachnid » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:03 am

ukcanuck wrote:
Meds wrote:
Madcombinepilot wrote:When Brad Boyes ( 35 points last year) has a PTO and no contract, Manny will be hard pressed to even get that..

Unfortunately, Manny is a victim of timing.


When it comes to getting a contract and a chance to play hockey professionally, I have difficulty assigning the label of "victim" to any professional hockey player who has already made millions of dollars playing a game.

Malhotra is a victim of a bad injury, no question.

But really, when you assign the label of a victim to people who suffered and died during the holocaust, or some of the innocents of the war torn middle east, then using that label to describe a guy who just can't get a minimum six figure contract just seems to be too much of a stretch.


Lol the ambulance driver has trouble seeing someone as a victim...
Probably should work on your empathy skills on your next course there Meds :)


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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Jovocop » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:25 am

Interesting... What would be the price tag??

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