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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Tciso » Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:44 pm

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I'd say Tanev is trying for something like $1.5 per on a two year deal or #1.3 per on a 2 year.

Gillis & Co probably trying to get him wrapped up for just over a mil.


I am guessing Gillis wants 3 years at $1.5/year. cheap, and still gives 1 last contract as a RFA.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby $lacker » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:17 am

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Media Release: Canucks have re-signed defenceman Chris Tanev - http://ow.ly/oaLou

1 year @ $1.5million
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Strangelove » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:35 am

Great, now QUICK offer-sheet Franson! :thumbs:
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby $lacker » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:44 am

Would love to have Cody, but once one of our rookies makes the 3rd/4th line we only have about 1.9 mill in cap space left. It will be interesting to see what Grabo signs for.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Strangelove » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:07 am

$lacker wrote:Would love to have Cody, but once one of our rookies makes the 3rd/4th line we only have about 1.9 mill in cap space left. It will be interesting to see what Grabo signs for.


Yeah, we'd be very tight to the cap.

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / Schroeder ($0.600m) / Dale Weise ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Chris Tanev ($1.500m)
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Cody Franson ($3.300m)
Yannick Weber ($0.650m) /
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,153,333; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $146,667


Only 21 players there. :look:

But I think Gilman could find a way to make it work.

Weber is capable of filling in at forward.

We get under the cap for the first coupla games and then someone like Booth goes on LTIR

... and we callup Santorelli/Lain/Jensen?

I dunno... trade Booth and retain half his salary?

Gilman can do this... somehow.

Leaves will probably match anyway, just offer-sheet Franson at #3.3m to screw them over! :thumbs:
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Benjo » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:08 am

Booth is skating again finally and is in great shape.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Jovocop » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:45 am

With 21 players roster, the Canucks still have about $2.8m left. Assuming Alberts @ $800k-$900k, MG still has slightly under $2m to improve the roster. Should the Canucks try to sign a veteran centre as a backup plan?? Reasoner or Steckel for less than $1m?
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Strangelove » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:06 pm

Jovocop wrote:With 21 players roster, the Canucks still have about $2.8m left. Assuming Alberts @ $800k-$900k, MG still has slightly under $2m to improve the roster. Should the Canucks try to sign a veteran centre as a backup plan?? Reasoner or Steckel for less than $1m?


I'd be happy with Steckel as the 4th line C.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Jovocop » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:11 pm

As expected, Alberts re-signed with the Canucks. Who's next? Steckel??

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Media Release: #Canucks have re-signed defenceman Andrew Alberts. http://ow.ly/obhTW
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby $lacker » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:41 pm

Jovocop wrote:As expected, Alberts re-signed with the Canucks. Who's next? Steckel??

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Media Release: #Canucks have re-signed defenceman Andrew Alberts. http://ow.ly/obhTW

$600k for Alberts... not bad.

Leaves a little room to make a depth signing up front.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby $lacker » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:50 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-2014 Vancouver Canucks:

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Jordan Schroeder ($0.600m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / Brendan Gaunce ($1.057m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m)
Dale Weise ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)
Chris Tanev ($1.500m) / Yannick Weber ($0.650m)
Frank Corrado ($0.599m) / Andrew Alberts ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,109,444; BONUSES: $162,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,353,056


So much for the overhaul! :shock:

We will really need Corrado and Tanev to step up, and our forward depth scares me a little, especially up the middle. If I were Gillis I really would have been pushing for that Grabo contract at $3 million to shore up the center position. Maybe he tried :hmmm:
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Jovocop » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:55 pm

$lacker wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-2014 Vancouver Canucks:

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Jordan Schroeder ($0.600m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / Brendan Gaunce ($1.057m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m)
Dale Weise ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)
Chris Tanev ($1.500m) / Yannick Weber ($0.650m)
Frank Corrado ($0.599m) / Andrew Alberts ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,109,444; BONUSES: $162,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,353,056


So much for the overhaul! :shock:

We will really need Corrado and Tanev to step up, and our forward depth scares me a little, especially up the middle. If I were Gillis I really would have been pushing for that Grabo contract at $3 million to shore up the center position. Maybe he tried :hmmm:


Corrado would most likely start the season in Utica. I would assume that MG would sign another veteran centre to challenge Schroeder, Lain and Gaunce for a spot. Steckel or Reasoner could come cheap and provide MG some options.

As for Grabo, I just don't think the Canucks have enough cap space to sign him.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby herb » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:01 pm

Don’t forget about Santorelli Slacker!!

Say what you will about Alberts, but $600k for what should be our 6th or 7th defenseman is good value, especially considering the improvements we saw in his game last year.

I can’t say I’m surprised or disappointed that we aren’t seeing much in the way of change on the roster. The big change was Tortorella. Most of our guys are in the midst of big money long term contracts which weren’t likely to have been moved. The FA market sucked and we are hamstrung by the lowering cap. I would have liked to see Burrows move in a “sell high” deal in an effort to get younger and grittier.

One thing’s for sure, Gillis and Tortorella are serious about getting some young guys into the lineup or at least leaving the door open for 3 or 4 roster spots in training camp. I still expect we’ll see a veteran backup type and a centre invited to camp that the rookies will have to compete against.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby $lacker » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:15 pm

herb wrote:Don’t forget about Santorelli Slacker!!

Say what you will about Alberts, but $600k for what should be our 6th or 7th defenseman is good value, especially considering the improvements we saw in his game last year.

I can’t say I’m surprised or disappointed that we aren’t seeing much in the way of change on the roster. The big change was Tortorella. Most of our guys are in the midst of big money long term contracts which weren’t likely to have been moved. The FA market sucked and we are hamstrung by the lowering cap. I would have liked to see Burrows move in a “sell high” deal in an effort to get younger and grittier.

One thing’s for sure, Gillis and Tortorella are serious about getting some young guys into the lineup or at least leaving the door open for 3 or 4 roster spots in training camp. I still expect we’ll see a veteran backup type and a centre invited to camp that the rookies will have to compete against.


Herb,

I think you are right, and the salary cap constraints definitely paint a picture similar to that. It's a gamble on Gillis' behalf because this lineup hasn't shown they can win when it matters for two years now. If the Torts experiment doesn't pan out then some of their assets will be worth even less next season. I suppose I was hoping that a core piece or two would be moved out this off season but as always its not often you see good "hockey" trades these days.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby herb » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:40 pm

Read a good article on Tortorella this morning from one of the local scribes (rare, I know).

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/vancouver-canucks/Putting+Johnny+spot/8818161/story.html

...we want to be offensive — I want to make sure you understand that — we also have to be fighting for the puck on a more consistent level. And in the six, seven, eight games that I watched I don’t see it. That is a mindset, I don’t think it is about bringing in a bunch of guys that are going to fight. It’s more about an overall attitude about how we play. The team looked like it was pretty easy to play against at times in the tapes I watched.


Betting on largely the same group certainly is a gamble, but it may just be the best bet at this point in time. Like I said earlier, I’m not entirely happy with the lack of change, but we haven’t seen much movement at all throughout the league aside from a few UFAs changing homes.

This very well may be a bridge year for the Canucks, but the present and future are a bit uncertain that is for sure. Coaching changes often times reap big gains, so it would not be unprecedented for this group to look revived and rejuvenated with a new voice behind the bench. How could you not like the idea of this group becoming hard to play against?

Pretty obvious there is considerable hope from management that Schroeder, Gaunce, Horvat, Shinkaruk and Corrado can step up big time within the next 2-3 years. While not likely, it is within the realm of possibility that this can happen.

To me, the big question marks are Kesler, Kassian and Booth. I’m confident the Sedins, Luongo and most of the defense will be fine, but these three guys need to have big years, which is very far from a sure thing.
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