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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Topper » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:29 pm

SL didn't figure that extra $5mil and a shrunken cap.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:39 pm

Topper wrote:SL didn't figure that extra $5mil and a shrunken cap.


Could have made it work by not extending Higgins or by trading Burrows a few weeks ago.

At any rate, the Oilers have hooped themselves and that's a GOOD thing!

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Diehard1 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:12 pm

Strangelove wrote:Well four months ago the Great Strangelove predicted:

"Gagner is prolly gonna demand $6mil after the way the Coil jerked him around last summer."

The arbitration hearing is tomorrow and Sammy is apparently seeking $5.5mil:

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/eye-o ... rbitration

Is the Great Strangelove the only one who saw that one coming?

The Coil have backed themselves into a corner here, Gagner can become a UFA at age 24 next summer.

If they wanna buy some of those UFA years, they're gonna hafta... finally... pay up.

They had an excellent chance to do that last summer but forced Gagner into a 1-year $3.2mil deal.

Well as the old saying goes "Payback is a bitch mofos". :mex:

As the Great Strangelove said exactly one year + one day ago:

"I don't get why the Oil is dicking around with a guy like Gagner. This kid is going to be a big star. An Einstein on ice. Shoulda wrapped him up long-term on @ $4mil+ per imo."

The Great Strangelove also suggested offer-sheeting Gagner last summer @ $5mil X 4 years.

An over-payment yes, but hey that's how offer-sheets work.

At the very least you force a division rival to overpay one of their up-n-coming stars.

The Great Strangelove figured Gagner could've been the 2nd line centre while Kesler was out.

And then slid over to the wing on a Booth-Kesler-Gagner line.

The Great Strangelove figured a playmaker like Sam would have been just what the doctor ordered for those two.

Oh well.

Anyhoo, glad to see the wedge being driven between Gagner and the Oilers.

Sure hope he walks away next summer....


Gagner is likely gone next summer - the Oil have to re-sign RNH, both Schultzes, 2 goalies, sign 4 or 5 other dmen and a few more forwards next year, and Katz is known to be a penny pincher. I don't see Gagner staying there.

I'd take him on the Nucks and I'm sure his dad would be a big influence to get him to Van, though he would be an expensive pickup.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Hockey Widow » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:02 am

Signed 3 years 4.8 per year. Thats Booth money, sort of.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Mondi » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:42 am

Jagr

Pittsburgh, Washington, New York, Dallas, Philadelphia, Boston, New Jersey.

That's a lot of team for a top 15 player of all-time. Would have looked good on the second line with Kesler 2-4 years ago.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby BurningBeard » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:14 am

herb wrote:Yes it does. Too bad there wasn’t cap space and a vet like Demitra available.

Let's not go digging up the past.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby ESQ » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:28 am

Diehard1 wrote:
Gagner is likely gone next summer - the Oil have to re-sign RNH, both Schultzes, 2 goalies, sign 4 or 5 other dmen and a few more forwards next year, and Katz is known to be a penny pincher. I don't see Gagner staying there.

I'd take him on the Nucks and I'm sure his dad would be a big influence to get him to Van, though he would be an expensive pickup.

Gagner signs with Oilers for 3 years/14.4 mil.

And apparently an NMC for the last 2 years of the contract.

Which, incredibly, leaves the Oilers just $1.35 million from the cap floor for this year with a full roster, and set the Oilers up with just 9 players under contract for next!
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Tiger » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:40 am

Hockey Widow wrote:Signed 3 years 4.8 per year. Thats Booth money, sort of.


For a 23 year old with Hank Sedin stats :(.. Oil are doing better than MG.. at resigning ..
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Jovocop » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:36 am

Tiger wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Signed 3 years 4.8 per year. Thats Booth money, sort of.


For a 23 year old with Hank Sedin stats :(.. Oil are doing better than MG.. at resigning ..


Gagner is a RFA, not an UFA. Can you imagine how much he would make as an UFA? I would bet somewhere around $6-$7m.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby CorranHorn » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:41 am

This is a great deal for Edmonton considering that they've bought two years of UFA from him.

Something i always consider when looking at these last RFA deals for a team/player.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby ESQ » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:43 am

Tiger wrote:For a 23 year old with Hank Sedin stats :(.. Oil are doing better than MG.. at resigning ..

Wait, what? Henrik Sedin stats? Do you mean Henrik at age 23?

More like a 23 year old with Alex Burrows stats, though fewer goals. And more injuries.

There must be some sort of salary structure in mind in Edmonton, but I fail to see it. The point of getting high draft picks is cheap contracts with high production, not high salary for decent production. There's no sign of the defence improving, and no goaltenders under contract past next year.

Oh, and the Schultzes are due new contracts next year as well.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Jovocop » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:52 am

ESQ wrote:
Tiger wrote:For a 23 year old with Hank Sedin stats :(.. Oil are doing better than MG.. at resigning ..

Wait, what? Henrik Sedin stats? Do you mean Henrik at age 23?

More like a 23 year old with Alex Burrows stats, though fewer goals. And more injuries.

There must be some sort of salary structure in mind in Edmonton, but I fail to see it. The point of getting high draft picks is cheap contracts with high production, not high salary for decent production. There's no sign of the defence improving, and no goaltenders under contract past next year.

Oh, and the Schultzes are due new contracts next year as well.


Players that the Oilers need to re-sign or replace next season:

Hemsky ($5m)
Nugent-Hopkins ($3.775m)
Smyth ($2.25m)
Schultzes ($3.775m and $3.5m)
Petry ($1.75m)
Grebeshkov ($1.5m)
Dubnyk ($3.5m)

A total of $25.05m cap hit for these 7 players. Nugent-Hopkins and the Schultzes will probably cost the Oilers $15m.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Tciso » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:10 pm

Jovocop wrote:Players that the Oilers need to re-sign or replace next season:

Hemsky ($5m)
Nugent-Hopkins ($3.775m)
Smyth ($2.25m)
Schultzes ($3.775m and $3.5m)
Petry ($1.75m)
Grebeshkov ($1.5m)
Dubnyk ($3.5m)

A total of $25.05m cap hit for these 7 players. Nugent-Hopkins and the Schultzes will probably cost the Oilers $15m.


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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:37 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Reefer2 wrote:Bozak wants a billion dollars over 8 years to stay in Toronto.


Well more like... close to $40mil. :mex:

Am I the only one wondering how Pigtown is gonna sign all their RFAs under the cap, let alone pending UFA Bozo?


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428209

Leaves sign Gunnarsson to a 3-year $9.45 million contract ($3.15mil per).

That leaves (pardon the pun) $6.5mil to sign Kadri, Franson, and Fraser.

Well less than that because you must save some room for injury callups.

I see alotta Leafers saying they'll just trade Liles for a pick (would the have to add another, lesser dee salary)

... but does anyone want Liles and his $3.875mil (for 3 more years)?

Yeah not sure how they're gonna pull this off without moving a contract.

Looking over their lineup I have convinced myself the Leaves are going to completely SUCK this year.

Yup, major suckage at the centre of the universe....
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Topper » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:02 pm

I think Clarkson will do well with Lupil, Kessel will be a drag on the cap structure. Bozak was a huge over payment but that will remain hidden by the wingers he plays with. The big problem for the leaves is after bottom 6, and defence. Goal will be average and I suspect they will be dumping Reimer and looking for an upgrade on Bernier next off season.

Yup, suckage in Pigtown continues.
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