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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby Topper » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:32 am

Disagree coco, they were stymied in the neutral zone with turnovers between their own blueline and centre. The transition through the neutral zone stunk most of the year.
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby coco_canuck » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:37 am

Topper wrote:Disagree coco, they were stymied in the neutral zone with turnovers between their own blueline and centre. The transition through the neutral zone stunk most of the year.


A great deal of that can be attributed to only having one or two NHL calibre centres dressed for a given game and missing wingers like Booth who are good with the puck through the neutral zone.

There was a lot of bank it out to the neutral zone and dumping it in to the offensive zone without good puck retrieval.
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby ukcanuck » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:16 am

Meds wrote:
ukcanuck wrote:Hey Meds you oughta change your name to Murray Pessimism,

What's with the gloom? There's Chicago and LA that this team split games with last year and there's everyone else.


Listening to you one woukd think Gilly sat on his ass with a sad sack non playoff team last year...


Out in 5 to LA. No change.

Out in 4 to San Jose. Slight changes, mostly behind the bench.

Our two most inconsistent players, Bieksa and Edler, are still here. If the new coach can get these guys playing the way we know the CAN play, then this team will still be very good. If they are still as inconsistent as they have been, then the team will be one of the wild cards.

There were injuries and distractions, no question that they played a part, but I just don't think this team is a lock for a top 3 spot.

That's why I think you should change your name to Murray for this coming season :)
seriuosly though, in out division is LA and San Jose and we split games with them last year, rounding out our division are Anaheim, Phoenix, Edmonton and Calgary... It doesn't look like we're minnows swimming in a big pool to me. I don't buy that because we blew a tire in the playoffs means that we all of a sudden suck. There are plenty of teams that have cycled up and down.
I guess we'll see though, it's proverbially why they play the games...
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby Jovocop » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:51 am

No Blum...

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Agent Gerry Johannson says #Canucks are out on John Blum but still poking around Marc Fistric.
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby Topper » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:39 pm

coco_canuck wrote:
Topper wrote:Disagree coco, they were stymied in the neutral zone with turnovers between their own blueline and centre. The transition through the neutral zone stunk most of the year.


A great deal of that can be attributed to only having one or two NHL calibre centres dressed for a given game and missing wingers like Booth who are good with the puck through the neutral zone.

There was a lot of bank it out to the neutral zone and dumping it in to the offensive zone without good puck retrieval.

I attribute it mainly to the shortage of right handed defenders (or lefties who can play that side).
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby herb » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:36 pm

Apparently Gillis & Co are kicking Mark Fistric’s tires. Fistric is a big, physical, aggressive bottom pairing d-man. His cap hit last year was $1.5M. Being a defenseman the Canucks covet, ff course he shoots left, but does anybody know if he can play his off side?
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby Meds » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:38 pm

ukcanuck wrote:
Meds wrote:
Out in 5 to LA. No change.

Out in 4 to San Jose. Slight changes, mostly behind the bench.

Our two most inconsistent players, Bieksa and Edler, are still here. If the new coach can get these guys playing the way we know the CAN play, then this team will still be very good. If they are still as inconsistent as they have been, then the team will be one of the wild cards.

There were injuries and distractions, no question that they played a part, but I just don't think this team is a lock for a top 3 spot.

That's why I think you should change your name to Murray for this coming season :)
seriuosly though, in out division is LA and San Jose and we split games with them last year, rounding out our division are Anaheim, Phoenix, Edmonton and Calgary... It doesn't look like we're minnows swimming in a big pool to me. I don't buy that because we blew a tire in the playoffs means that we all of a sudden suck. There are plenty of teams that have cycled up and down.
I guess we'll see though, it's proverbially why they play the games...


The Murray comment.....whoosh. Don't get it.

If you think we split with San Jose last year you should go look again.....0-2-1. 1 of a possible 6 points.

Like I said, I don't think this team is a top 6 in the West anymore.....at least I don't think it's a given like it has been the last few seasons. That's all. The SHOULD make the playoffs. It won't shock me if they don't.
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby coco_canuck » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:08 pm

Topper wrote:I attribute it mainly to the shortage of right handed defenders (or lefties who can play that side).


That's fair.
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby ukcanuck » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:39 pm

Meds wrote:
ukcanuck wrote:
Meds wrote:
Out in 5 to LA. No change.

Out in 4 to San Jose. Slight changes, mostly behind the bench.

Our two most inconsistent players, Bieksa and Edler, are still here. If the new coach can get these guys playing the way we know the CAN play, then this team will still be very good. If they are still as inconsistent as they have been, then the team will be one of the wild cards.

There were injuries and distractions, no question that they played a part, but I just don't think this team is a lock for a top 3 spot.

That's why I think you should change your name to Murray for this coming season :)
seriuosly though, in out division is LA and San Jose and we split games with them last year, rounding out our division are Anaheim, Phoenix, Edmonton and Calgary... It doesn't look like we're minnows swimming in a big pool to me. I don't buy that because we blew a tire in the playoffs means that we all of a sudden suck. There are plenty of teams that have cycled up and down.
I guess we'll see though, it's proverbially why they play the games...


The Murray comment.....whoosh. Don't get it.

If you think we split with San Jose last year you should go look again.....0-2-1. 1 of a possible 6 points.

Like I said, I don't think this team is a top 6 in the West anymore.....at least I don't think it's a given like it has been the last few seasons. That's all. The SHOULD make the playoffs. It won't shock me if they don't.


Okay I kinda forgot they only got to a shoot out with SJ once but they did finish ahead of them in the standings.
I agree that by now nothing the Canucks do is particularly shocking, however it's only the post season that's been an issue the past 5 years so I'm expecting a same old same old start to the season and its way to early to tell what the team will look like or play like come next April

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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby Strangelove » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:45 pm

Okay, how about Dustin Penner? :drink:

Canucks need more size in their top 9 and Penner sticks up for his teammates.

He'd easily pop 20+ goals here if given time with the twins on the PP.

Rumour has it he's been offered less than $3mil on a one year contract.

To keep the cap-hit low, I say offer him a 6-year deal at $2.5mil per. :mex:

If he is crappy after 4 years or so, just buy him out.

He lives in California, so perhaps Vancouver is close enough, right time zone enough?

And yeah, Canucks will be spending about 50 days of the season in California....

YAY OR NAY?
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby rats19 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:53 pm

Frikken eh yay....
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby RoyalDude » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:57 pm

Strangelove wrote:Okay, how about Dustin Penner? :drink:

Canucks need more size in their top 9 and Penner sticks up for his teammates.

He'd easily pop 20+ goals here if given time with the twins on the PP.

Rumour has it he's been offered less than $3mil on a one year contract.

To keep the cap-hit low, I say offer him a 6-year deal at $2.5mil per. :mex:

If he is crappy after 4 years or so, just buy him out.

He lives in California, so perhaps Vancouver is close enough, right time zone enough?

And yeah, Canucks will be spending about 50 days of the season in California....

YAY OR NAY?


A team with both Kassian and Penner in the line-up might be too much in the area of "Big Wingers who are infamous at disappearing on a regular basis" for one team to handle.
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby SKYO » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:01 pm

a third line of:

Penner - Schroeder - Kassian

I like that shit.
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby Strangelove » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:04 pm

RoyalDude wrote:A team with both Kassian and Penner in the line-up might be too much in the area of "Big Wingers who are infamous at disappearing on a regular basis" for one team to handle.


That's where Torts comes in (you smurf-lover you). :P
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Re: 2013 FA Thread

Postby 5thhorseman » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:34 pm

SKYO wrote:a third line of:

Penner - Schroeder - Kassian

I like that shit.


Hmmm, shades of Momesso, Ronning, Sandlak. Great line except for Ronning's blind passes from behind the net.
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