Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Arachnid » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:47 am

dbr wrote:Doesn't really do anything for the Canucks, but it'd be pretty hilarious to see Vinny sign with the Panthers and then have them run roughshod over the Lightning next year..
All over the news in CotU that Lecavalier & Letang will be coming here :eh: Not even gonna post a link that's so stupid Everyone knows they will go to Vancouver :mrgreen:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by BurningBeard » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:07 am

RoyalDude wrote:Our biggest strength was apparently our goaltending and they shit the bed for us two playoffs in a row.
Are you suggesting we lost the last two first round series because of goaltending? Because you're taking revisionist history to a new level if that's the case.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by RoyalDude » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:25 am

BurningBeard wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:Our biggest strength was apparently our goaltending and they shit the bed for us two playoffs in a row.
Are you suggesting we lost the last two first round series because of goaltending? Because you're taking revisionist history to a new level if that's the case.
No, but according to everyone and the moon our biggest strength was our goaltending, built from the rear out. We had a lot of money invested there, A LOT, cause apparently they were worth it and KEY to our success. In which successful they were not, that is unless you don't mind the first round exits two years in a row (in 4 straight games to the sharks) and are quite content with the much ballyhooed Presidents Trophy and no Stanley Cup 43 years running. Anyhow, it only proves, at least to me it does, that investing a large amount of a teams payroll in the nets really isn't all that and that some GM's, I think more than a few, may agree and may think that all they need is a Brobovsky combined with a defensive specialist coach who can convince his team to play the modern game of collapsing as a five man unit around the net. If it's Team Defense and coaching that wins, why spend a fortune on goaltending? A FORTUNE?

The long and short of it, Luongo isn't playing elite level goaltending, enough to justify a GM wanting to take on such a big long contract on a goalie who is 34 years old in Cap era hockey where the league just tightened the screws of the lid.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Arachnid » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:26 am

RoyalDude wrote:
BurningBeard wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:Our biggest strength was apparently our goaltending and they shit the bed for us two playoffs in a row.
Are you suggesting we lost the last two first round series because of goaltending? Because you're taking revisionist history to a new level if that's the case.
No, but according to everyone and the moon our biggest strength was our goaltending, built from the rear out. We had a lot of money invested there, A LOT, cause apparently they were worth it and KEY to our success. Only proving that investing a large amount of a teams payroll in the nets really isn't all that and that some GM's, I think more than a few, may think they have the next Brobovsky if they have a defensive specialist coach who can convince his team to play the modern game of collapsing as a five man unit around the net.

The long and short of it, Luongo isn't playing elite level goaltending, enough to justify a GM wanting to take on such a big long contract on a goalie who is 34 years old in Cap era hockey where the league just tightened the screws of the lid.
I agree

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by SKYO » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:37 am

Lebrun: Canucks are interested in Vinny. Gillis has already talked to Torts about him #boldmoves
I'd rather go hard after Letang if MG is going all out.

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Wasn't Nonis or BB after Lecavalier long time ago?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Arachnid » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:54 am

SKYO wrote:
Lebrun: Canucks are interested in Vinny. Gillis has already talked to Torts about him #boldmoves
I'd rather go hard after Letang if MG is going all out.

JayG - Letang
Hammy - Juice

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Wasn't Nonis or BB after Lecavalier long time ago?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Strangelove » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:09 pm

Topper wrote:Bryz had a cap hit similar to Lou's but performed like Reimer.

Vinnie had a hit of $7.7mil

Two very different stories Dude
Also Vinnie had a NMC and wouldn't waive it for a trade

(also they can't put you on waivers if you have a MNC).

So yeah, Vinnie pretty much forced them into a buyout, considering they're severely cap-squeezed.

And like you say, Bryz just downright sucked.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by BurningBeard » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:28 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
BurningBeard wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:Our biggest strength was apparently our goaltending and they shit the bed for us two playoffs in a row.
Are you suggesting we lost the last two first round series because of goaltending? Because you're taking revisionist history to a new level if that's the case.
No
Good, I'm glad we're on the same page.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by SKYO » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:22 pm

Flames announce trade of Tanguay and Sarich to Colorado for Shane O'Brien and David Jones.

Avs re-union party getting bigger.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by RoyalDude » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:28 pm

SKYO wrote:Flames announce trade of Tanguay and Sarich to Colorado for Shane O'Brien and David Jones.

Avs re-union party getting bigger.
I would have liked local kid - Jones here. Gillis asleep at the wheel again?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Arachnid » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:41 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
SKYO wrote:Flames announce trade of Tanguay and Sarich to Colorado for Shane O'Brien and David Jones.

Avs re-union party getting bigger.
I would have liked local kid - Jones here. Gillis asleep at the wheel again?
I agree a local kid would be best.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Aaronp18 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:51 pm

Arachnid wrote:
RoyalDude wrote: I would have liked local kid - Jones here. Gillis asleep at the wheel again?
I agree a local kid would be best.
So out of curiosity, who would you two have given up to acquire Jones and O'Brien?

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Rumsfeld » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:54 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:
Arachnid wrote:
RoyalDude wrote: I would have liked local kid - Jones here. Gillis asleep at the wheel again?
I agree a local kid would be best.
So out of curiosity, who would you two have given up to acquire Jones and O'Brien?
I personally wouldn't give up a wet fart to aquire O'Brien.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Aaronp18 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:04 pm

Rumsfeld wrote: I personally wouldn't give up a wet fart to aquire O'Brien.
Well I agree with you but those other two seem to think Gillis should have been in on this package!

Jones sure, but we'd probably be looking at giving up Burrows.

I don't know what else Colorado would want from us.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by RoyalDude » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:08 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:
Arachnid wrote:
RoyalDude wrote: I would have liked local kid - Jones here. Gillis asleep at the wheel again?
I agree a local kid would be best.
So out of curiosity, who would you two have given up to acquire Jones and O'Brien?
Who's talking O'Brien?

As for who I would give up for Jones? Anything, how about a reprieve from hearing the constant stories of the day Arachnid finally made it over the rainbow and found his beloved Pom poms
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