Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

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I think Mg will try to avoid the buy outs if he can and yes if he doesn't use them this off season he has them for next off season. But then the cap should go back up no?

He has to get through one season of cap pain and I trust he and Gillman will do so. And for the record, I haven't heard that he has been "forbidden" to use the buy out, only that the water boy is not a fan of them. So I would suggest he has probably been told to do whatever he can to avoid being in that position. But I tend to agree that the water boy has not been reluctant to spend money to allow MG to ice the best team possible and I doubt he would close the door on that option if it meant icing a better team. It is and always has been about winning with them and for that I think we should all be grateful of the ownership we have. But I also believe MG will do what he can to avoid these buy outs, unless he hits a home run of a trade that necessitates him taking back a horrible deal that needs to be bought out, but I don't believe the Dipietro shiite. One of the problems with making a Luongo deal last season was he absolutely did not want to take back a bad long term deal so I can't really see that changing unless he is out of options.

Its hard listening to him to know what is really going on as he always paints a rosy picture. I just hope the season ends Saturday so the real show can begin!
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Hockey Widow wrote:Its hard listening to him to know what is really going on as he always paints a rosy picture. I just hope the season ends Saturday so the real show can begin!
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

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Rumsfeld wrote:
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

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rats19 wrote:
Rumsfeld wrote:
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Read between the lines there Einstein...
Gillis should not trade Alexander Edler.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

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Hockey Widow wrote: I think Mg will try to avoid the buy outs if he can
Obviously he would avoid buying out players who are already Canucks... preferring trades.

But taking on a bad contract for a buyout along with a top prospect is something I'm sure he's interested in.

We're talking about the opportunity to BUY a great young player.

No way does a rich team pass up this kind of opportunity.
Hockey Widow wrote: He has to get through one season of cap pain and I trust he and Gillman will do so.
Here's a way, get a young top-6 forward on a cheap contract along with a player on a bad contract which you buyout. Image
Hockey Widow wrote: And for the record, I haven't heard that he has been "forbidden" to use the buy out, only that the water boy is not a fan of them.
Water boy is not a fan of buying out players who are already Canucks.

Water boy must be a fan of taking on a bad contract for a buyout along with a top prospect.
Hockey Widow wrote: I tend to agree that the water boy has not been reluctant to spend money to allow MG to ice the best team possible and I doubt he would close the door on that option if it meant icing a better team.
Wait.... so you agree?? :eh:
Hockey Widow wrote: It is and always has been about winning with them and for that I think we should all be grateful of the ownership we have.
Nope. Aquaman is raking in money hand over fist from we fans.

If he wants that to continue he BETTER improve the team through the kind of reinvestment I'm going on about.

And on about.

And on about.

The fucker just raised ticket prices AGAIN and the natives are getting restless.

What I'm talking about is making a wise business decision.

But like I say, I'm sure he's already on board with this scheme.

It's what we used to refer to as "common sense". :mex:
Hockey Widow wrote: One of the problems with making a Luongo deal last season was he absolutely did not want to take back a bad long term deal so I can't really see that changing unless he is out of options.
He doesn't want to take back a bad contract in the Luongo trade

... because he shouldn't have to take back a bad contract in the Luongo trade.

BTW I'm not talking about taking a bad contract back in the Luongo trade either.
Hockey Widow wrote: Its hard listening to him to know what is really going on as he always paints a rosy picture.
That's because being an NHL GM is like playing poker.

And THAT'S why it's so funny when fans hang on a GM's every word. :wink:
Hockey Widow wrote: I just hope the season ends Saturday so the real show can begin!
I've got a hunch the Luongo trade is going to happen very quickly after the season ends. :thumbs:


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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

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Rumsfeld wrote: Gillis should not trade Alexander Edler.
Would someone please change the title of this damn thread to "Compliance Buyouts"!
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I got to go play outside all day whilst someone else does the homework.

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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

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Doc,

I have absolutely no objection to MG using the two amnesty buy outs. Why should I, it isn't my money and it has no impact on the cap moving forward. It may however have an impact on ticket prices etc going forward because the water boy, along with wanting to win, wants to make money.

Frankly I can't come up with one good reason why any fan would object to an amnesty buy out. And I have no objection to your idea of using one or two to land a good player and or prospect or move up significantly in the draft.

And Edler should only be traded if MG hits a home run! :mrgreen:
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

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Hockey Widow wrote:And Edler should only be traded if MG hits a home run!
Like packaging him in a deal for Kris Letang? :mrgreen:
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Re: Compliance Buyouts

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Strangelove wrote:
Rumsfeld wrote: Gillis should not trade Alexander Edler.
Would someone please change the title of this damn thread to "Compliance Buyouts"!
OK

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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

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BladesofSteel wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:And Edler should only be traded if MG hits a home run!
Like packaging him in a deal for Kris Letang? :mrgreen:
Good idea. Letang is a great puck moving, offensive dman. He lacks Edler's size and the physical component that Edler SOMETIMES brings. But he's decent positionally and Gillis would simply have to pair him with a physical, defensively responsible partner.

TSN'S is now reporting that Letang will probably be asking for $7M per year after his current deal expires......


That's overpayment. Edler at $5M is a better option than Letang at $7M. For what I've watched from Edler defensively over the last 2 years and coupled with his play on the point, I would take Letang at $6M over him. And to be honest I think it also depends on what the $2M you save on Edler at his current salary would end up being used for.....if it was just to stock up on a couple of Sestitos and a Dale Weise..... :look:
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