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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:16 pm

sagebrush wrote:
Meanwhile, we only have one top 2 D man, who plays best on the right side. It doesn't make sense. It's a bad allocation of resources.



Is it totally against the laws of hockey physics to have 3 solid pairings of defenseman? 3 Righties in Bieksa, Tanev and Corrado to go with 3 lefties in Hamhius, Edler and Garrison all sharing the same amount of ice time and give the most to the pairing that are playing the best at the moment of the game? The two rightie rookies in Corrado and Tanev pair up with two experienced lefties? What's not to like?

As for Corrado, we have no choice he pretty much gets thrown in to the fire due to our cap situation and to Gillis stating that he is going with the kids next season. He fits exactly what Gillis is spewing, so there you have it, the missing rightie.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:22 pm

SKYO wrote:We have Luongo for sure, plus Booth, Ballard and maybe Burrows to possibly trade if need be for a 3rd line center and a #4 RIGHT side dman.




Well, I can tell you right now Skyo, it ain't rocket science - Out of that group Burrows is the only one that will fetch ya something decent in return. Booth and Ballard? LMAO! We are stuck with them unless some team can give us like a 7th or 8th round pick for them, willing to take on their contracts with two more seasons left on them. I think it's clear to everyone now that Gillis will take anything for Luongo, pucks, beer money just as long as he doesn't have to take a contract back or help cover a portion of his contract with the other team who takes him. At 34 and that contract and where his game is at, which isn't elite level, it's gonna be hard for Mikey to find a dancing partner.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:25 pm

sagebrush wrote:^^^
The right side D has been an issue for years. Corrado brings hope, but he's not ready to take on top fwd lines, & Tanev has struggled against the same.



So Corrado playing in the playoffs for us against the Sharks and the fact that Gillis will have no choice but to start going the cheaper route by bringing the kids in the system earlier than usual. Look, the Gillis regime is notorious at cooking the kids in the minors, even Gillis says, it's time to start throwing these kids to the fire, live through their mistakes otherwise we will never ever see them up here. Corrado IMO is probably the most ready, him and Schroeder.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:27 pm

vic wrote:Kind of how you'll be howling how Gillis should be fired for not trading Edler for help in the top 6 when he had a chance.


vic, you must be from the front of the bus with the rest of the retards...I have been completely against trading Edler, but I wouldn't expect that to register with you at all....go back to the front of the bus Mr. Special Needs, it's where you belong.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:30 pm

sagebrush wrote:For the most part, I like Tanev's game, but there were times late in the season, against the big, top lines where he wore down & lost confidence. Playoff hockey requires the ability to stand up to this.

Otherwise, his positioning & composure tends to be good (after getting over a rough start last season). There were times when watching Tanev provided pure comedy. Not his play, but the expression on his face when playing with Ballard, & Ballard drifted out of position.


Sage, you need to go back to the video room and scout Tanev, the kid played quite well and at times was our most steady defenseman. His ability to take a hit and not panic under pressure and move the puck out of danger with speed and pin pointed passing is is quite excellent IMO. The kid has made the grade. He's the least of our worries on the back end.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Lancer » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:40 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
vic wrote:Kind of how you'll be howling how Gillis should be fired for not trading Edler for help in the top 6 when he had a chance.


vic, you must be from the front of the bus with the rest of the retards...I have been completely against trading Edler, but I wouldn't expect that to register with you at all....go back to the front of the bus Mr. Special Needs, it's where you belong.


Really, Dude? Really?

Do we need more ad-hominem attacks?

Why don't you just attack his argument instead? :|
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Arachnid » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:08 pm

Lancer wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
vic wrote:Kind of how you'll be howling how Gillis should be fired for not trading Edler for help in the top 6 when he had a chance.


vic, you must be from the front of the bus with the rest of the retards...I have been completely against trading Edler, but I wouldn't expect that to register with you at all....go back to the front of the bus Mr. Special Needs, it's where you belong.


Really, Dude? Really?

Do we need more ad-hominem attacks?

Why don't you just attack his argument instead? :|


Stay on topic pimple or I will report you!

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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Hockey Widow » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:09 pm

I think most people are saying the same thing really. No one is talking about trading Edler because he is bad, only the opposite and only if the return is a home run. For the most part I think we all agree he is a good top 4 and should only be moved in a hockey trade that is something we can't turn down, otherwise the hole he leaves is too big to fill within.

So much will hinge on getting Luongo outta here and possible moving Ballard or buying him out. From the looks of it Booth will be on the team next season. So loosing Booth and Luongo a long with some of the FA we won't be brining back we should be fine, assuming MG fills the few holes we have and our youngster take on some meaningful roles.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby BladesofSteel » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:57 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:So much will hinge on getting Luongo outta here and possible moving Ballard or buying him out. From the looks of it Booth will be on the team next season. So loosing Booth and Luongo a long with some of the FA we won't be brining back we should be fine, assuming MG fills the few holes we have and our youngster take on some meaningful roles.

I'm a little surprised you continue to suggest this, HW. Has Gillis not already stated publicly that he will not exercise the buy-out options this summer?
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Hockey Widow » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:11 am

BladesofSteel wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:So much will hinge on getting Luongo outta here and possible moving Ballard or buying him out. From the looks of it Booth will be on the team next season. So loosing Booth and Luongo a long with some of the FA we won't be brining back we should be fine, assuming MG fills the few holes we have and our youngster take on some meaningful roles.

I'm a little surprised you continue to suggest this, HW. Has Gillis not already stated publicly that he will not exercise the buy-out options this summer?



I don't think MG has said that has he? Like others I have heard that the water boy is not a fan of the idea, these buy outs, but I don't think MG has ruled it out and I don't know if he has been told to rule it out or not. Only that the water boy is not a fan of the idea.

I think he has some pressure on him to avoid the buyouts and I think he may go to great lengths to do so but I don't know if that option has been removed from him. But then I would guess most other GM's, other than the Flyers it appears, are in the same position. Not many owners are going to want to spend the coin to do these buy outs but we'll see.

Oh and Montreal and NYR already have one buy out from last season.

Has MG said he has ruled these out? I thought he said all options are on the table. Or are you poking fun at me? :oops: :oops:
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby BladesofSteel » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:58 am

Not poking fun HW. I can't recall if it was an interview on the TEAM a few weeks ago, or the end of season meeting with the media, but I'm almost certain Gillis stated it was not an option.

I don't have the time to look it up, but I'm sure if its true, someone else heard it as well.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:04 am

BladesofSteel wrote:Not poking fun HW. I can't recall if it was an interview on the TEAM a few weeks ago, or the end of season meeting with the media, but I'm almost certain Gillis stated it was not an option.

I don't have the time to look it up, but I'm sure if its true, someone else heard it as well.


The only thing I vaguely remember him saying on the topic of buyouts is that Booth wouldn't be bought out because he'll still be injured when that window of opportunity arises.

I think if he had closed the door completely on buyouts it would be more common knowledge and we wouldn't be questioning it.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby BladesofSteel » Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:57 pm

I know I heard it with my own ears. But if it is something the 'media' chose to disregard, than there will obviously be no discussion about it.

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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby vic » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:10 pm

RoyalDude wrote:I have been completely against trading Edler


You're right, you were hoping Gillis let him walk for nothing so your bashing could continue...

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RoyalDude wrote:All I know is this, regarding who Gillis should trade. I have zero faith in this guy when it comes to trading. He is a players agent at heart, he overvalues players and from that gives them ridiculous contracts (Edler and Luongo)


So you are against trading a player with a ridiculous contract...Gillis should go out and sign a full roster with ridiculous contracts and you'll be a happy camper, right?

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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Rumsfeld » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:26 pm

I thought I was good at putting my foot in my mouth, but RD is deepthroating his knee right now!

vic wrote:So you are against trading a player with a ridiculous contract...Gillis should go out and sign a full roster with ridiculous contracts and you'll be a happy camper, right?


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