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Re: Coaches canned

Postby Topper » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:49 pm

Arachnid wrote:
rikster wrote:
Arachnid wrote:I can't believe we found the thug who gooned sThinkster away...take care my arse, how can you feel good about killing Artie, he was one of a kind, he was...smarter than the usual bear....he was....wonderbar.....I miss his hockey discourse


Let me correct you on a couple of things...

Take Care's surrender

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Re: Coaches canned

Postby x00x » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:16 am

aside from the irony of this post, perhaps if people stayed on topic and kept their whining and complaining about each other to a different thread some of these issues would be resolved.

personally i hate having to skip 1/2 the posts in a thread while people discuss their ovaries.
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby Cornuck » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:29 am

x00x wrote:aside from the irony of this post, perhaps if people stayed on topic and kept their whining and complaining about each other to a different thread some of these issues would be resolved.

personally i hate having to skip 1/2 the posts in a thread while people discuss their ovaries.


As a mod I fully endorse this post. We have a 'Bar and Grill' for a reason.
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby SKYO » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:10 am

Torts to get a 2nd interview folks, along with Stevens probably...

" John Tortorella is getting a second interview with the Canucks this week to replace the fired Alain Vigneault after the blustery bench boss apparently knocked it out of the park in his first meeting. Not surprising. The fired New York Rangers coach has won a Stanley Cup, will push any buttons to maximize performance and that will resonate with ownership and management — event though some of the Rangers’ problems this season sound so familiar here. A reliance on great goaltending and struggle to score goals led to the Rangers being 10th in offence and 23rd on the power play during the regular season and 4-for-44 on the power play in the playoffs. Yet, there’s something about the fiery Tortorella approach that’s tempting — like putting your hand too close to a flame — to see if you get a rush or burned in the process. We’ve documented for weeks what a Tortorella hiring here would mean — the good, bad and possibly ugly — but it’s a story that simply won’t go away. And if Torts can somewhat soften his approach in a media-mad market, he might have a leg up on the job.

Expect Los Angeles Kings assistant coach John Stevens to be granted another interview. With NHL general manager meetings on Wednesday in Boston, this process could stretch out unless Mike Gillis is already convinced he has his man and just needs to take the process forward face-to-face.
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:18 am

Wouldn't it be funny if the biggest move both the Canucks and the Rangers make this off season is to simply switch coaches and neither team ends up making the playoffs?
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby Vader » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:24 am

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:Wouldn't it be funny if the biggest move both the Canucks and the Rangers make this off season is to simply switch coaches and neither team ends up making the playoffs?


yeah.

That'd be hilarious.

Wouldn't be able to stop laughing.

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Re: Coaches canned

Postby sagebrush » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:30 am

Masochist's R not us. :scowl:
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby herb » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:35 am

So, sounds like either Tortorella or Stevens will be the next Canucks head coach. I have no idea who I would prefer. Neither has the kind of pedigree or track record that says they’re no brainer hires.
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby sagebrush » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:38 am

To swing for the fences or take a more measured, patient approach.
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby Madcombinepilot » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:54 am

Not so sure I am against torts coming here for a year.... Kinda like 'iron mike pt2'.

Keenan came in and totally changes the outlook/attitude of the dressing room. He made this a hard working team (with no talent and leadership) but laid the foundation to make this a team that could compete for the next 12 years...

Torts would come in with a team that already has some talent, and if he could install the 'never give up play 60 minutes' style, I would be ok with that, so long as everyone realizes that torts has an expiry date...

I think the biggest threat of Torts coming in would bethat certain players might tune him out and demand a trade.. A team implosion from a arrogant/ crappy coach could set us back 12 years, or he could be the right motivation to focus this team to compete for 60min.... Tough call for any of us to make on this side of the screen

Ether way, Torts would make media scrubs WAY more entertaining for the next 18 months :D
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby ESQ » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:03 am

herb wrote:So, sounds like either Tortorella or Stevens will be the next Canucks head coach. I have no idea who I would prefer. Neither has the kind of pedigree or track record that says they’re no brainer hires.

While I've thought Torts was a joke during his time in NY, I'm more and more coming around to him being my top choice.

I strongly believe that a simple coaching change can make a big impact without major personnel changes. Therrien-to-Bylsma being the best example, but as I stated above every Cup-winning coach since the 1970s spent less than 4 years with their team before winning the Cup.

If you accept that major roster changes won't be made (due to cap problems and an extremely weak FA market), and that coaching changes to the locker room culture can put a team over the top, then Torts is the best short-term solution. He obviously has a shelf-life with players, and his caustic approach might be what this group of players needs to shake them out of the overly-casual style.

The gamble with Torts is whether he can get better performances out of the 2nd line wingers (whoever they may be), Bieksa, and Edler. If those guys don't respond, tune him out and end up riding the pine a lot of nights I think we're screwed. I expect a career year out of Hamhuis, who will be the biggest beneficiary of double-shifts when one of the d-men get benched for a brain fart. Kesler is also Torts' kind of player and could do extremely well.

Also in Torts defence, however much the Rangers were spending each year they've been a shitty team riding a hot goalie for the past decade. Sather has been decent at the draft, but his need for The Big Deal has killed his team. And at the end of the day, he's one of the only available coaches who has a Cup ring.
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby Per » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:30 am

Guess the Rangers are worried AV is not enough of an asshole; it seems they're about to hire Ulf Samuelsson as assistant coach. :lol:
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby vic » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:43 am

Madcombinepilot wrote:I think the biggest threat of Torts coming in would bethat certain players might tune him out and demand a trade..


Has any player who played under Torts demanded a trade? Serious question, I don't know the answer...

There may be some members of the Vancouver Sports Media who want out, but that would be a welcomed change.
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby sagebrush » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:34 pm

^^

It also may lend credence to the report by Hockey Night in Canada’s Elliotte Friedman that goalie Henrik Lundqvist‘s noncommittal response to a question about re-signing in New York was a factor in Tortorella’s firing.
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Re: Coaches canned

Postby Zedlee » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:00 pm

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:Wouldn't it be funny if the biggest move both the Canucks and the Rangers make this off season is to simply switch coaches and neither team ends up making the playoffs?


Or...meet in the Stanley Cup Finals!
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