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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:57 pm

dbr wrote:
SKYO wrote:"#Canes GM Rutherford says he would entertain offers for their number 5 pick if a trade involved them receiving a top 4 d-man."

How about a top 2 dman. 8-)


It is the same guy who dealt a recent 3rd overall pick for Tim Gleason - although in hindsight he might have got the better player.


then Players Agent - Mike 'Grabner, 1st round pick, Bernier for Ballard' Gillis should make for a great trading partner with Rutherford.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Todd Bersnoozi » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:21 pm

Not sure if this is enough, but what about Edler for Tyler Myers? We can throw in a player or pick. It'd be nice to get the next potential Chara on our roster. There always rumblings about Miller wanting out of Buffalo, maybe they'd be interested in our American goalie Schneids.

As far as big doods go, I'd luv to get Buffy here and would be willing to overpay for him too. Edler, Shroeder and a pick for Buffy?
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Meds » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:08 pm

Why not trade Edler? What does he bring points-wise that wouldn't be made up for by a top 6 forward?

Look at the teams in the playoffs, they have a couple of high paid defensemen and the rest drop off as far as salary/cap hit goes. Teams that are successful are putting up numbers from the forwards and have tough, defensively responsible, and physically dedicated, defensemen on the blueline. They break out as a unit, don't look for the stretch pass with a massive gap between the forwards and defense. They back check and are often starting their counter attack from the neutral zone. They have 3 forwards all filling lanes, and they all go to the net. None of this one man to the corner to get a cycle going if the rush fails. They don't think fail. They thing succeed and when they don't they regroup like cheetahs and start again. And they don't seem to give up near the number of odd man rushes that the Canucks do.

Edler is replaceable defensively. Not so much offensively as far as what you get from the back end, but as if you can replace his points up front while decreasing the number off chances and goals against.....that is a VERY GOOD trade.

If Edler can be part of a package that gets us into the top few picks in the draft, then making up for that production from a forward like MacKinnon is worth waiting a year or so.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby TDA Rum » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:16 pm

I don't want a 300 pound Buffy...pass...


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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby herb » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:02 am

^ Who cares if Buffy is 260, 280, 300, 400 pounds as long as he’s an effective defenseman? This guy is consistently one of the highest scoring defensemen in the league, hell he scored 11 goals in the playoffs in 2010.

The fact that he’s a huge, bull of a man that is a handful for anybody in the league is a bonus.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby SKYO » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:22 pm

Well if you're trying to get bigger and nastier without losing skill, Byfuglien would be the way to go! Be helluva lot cheaper than trying to go after Weber who also has a higher cap hit.. SW $7.85M to DB $5.2M.
And we all know he's uber beast mode in the playoffs too.

Trade Edler for help up front, trade Booth++ or Burrows+ for Byfuglien. :thumbs:
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:58 pm

Iffy on Buffy.

There are guys you want on your team because they have a ring and know what it takes.

I question his hunger for another.

How can you be hungry when you're always full?

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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby SKYO » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:37 pm

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:Iffy on Buffy.

There are guys you want on your team because they have a ring and know what it takes.

I question his hunger for another.

How can you be hungry when you're always full?


Speaking of which, most contenders that eventually win it have a few players that have already won it! whyTF doesn't Gillis recognize this?

iirc the players on the Canucks who have actually won a Stanley Cup in their NHL careers? zero.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Jovocop » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:03 pm

SKYO wrote:
Eddy Punch Clock wrote:Iffy on Buffy.

There are guys you want on your team because they have a ring and know what it takes.

I question his hunger for another.

How can you be hungry when you're always full?


Speaking of which, most contenders that eventually win it have a few players that have already won it! whyTF doesn't Gillis recognize this?

iirc the players on the Canucks who have actually won a Stanley Cup in their NHL careers? zero.


I always find that these players who have won the Stanley Cup are overrated. A lot of them were just lucky enough to be on a winning team. Some players just had a hell of a series or two but could never duplicate their success anywhere.

I still recall that the Canucks once had a 6 times SC winner and one of the best captains ever. However, the Canucks missed the playoffs for three straight seasons during his tenure.

The current Canucks might not have a SC ring but most of them did play in the SCF Game 7. I am pretty sure that they know what it takes to win it all.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Lancer » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:21 pm

Philadelphia trades for Mark Streit's rights. Unless they're willing to give a 35-year old $5 mil/yr for a couple years, don't know how worthwhile that was.

Having said that, if the Isles weren't willing to pay $5 mil for a 35-year old D, wonder if they'd pay that sum for a younger version at 27? Does this put them in the market for Edler?

They gotta reach the floor somehow, and it would be worth wondering what they would part with in order to get him.

Food for thought...
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Jovocop » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:59 pm

Lancer wrote:Philadelphia trades for Mark Streit's rights. Unless they're willing to give a 35-year old $5 mil/yr for a couple years, don't know how worthwhile that was.

Having said that, if the Isles weren't willing to pay $5 mil for a 35-year old D, wonder if they'd pay that sum for a younger version at 27? Does this put them in the market for Edler?

They gotta reach the floor somehow, and it would be worth wondering what they would part with in order to get him.

Food for thought...


How about the $4.2m 29-years old D? :)
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Lancer » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:09 pm

Jovocop wrote:
Lancer wrote:Philadelphia trades for Mark Streit's rights. Unless they're willing to give a 35-year old $5 mil/yr for a couple years, don't know how worthwhile that was.

Having said that, if the Isles weren't willing to pay $5 mil for a 35-year old D, wonder if they'd pay that sum for a younger version at 27? Does this put them in the market for Edler?

They gotta reach the floor somehow, and it would be worth wondering what they would part with in order to get him.

Food for thought...


How about the $4.2m 29-years old D? :)


Think he'd trash his NTC to work for Wang and Snow in the Bronx? Having said that, if Torts gets hired, it might look appealing... :lol:

-oops, wrong $4+ mill Dman... :bang: There are so many...

Yeah, Snow might bite for a pick and a puck.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Island Nucklehead » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:25 pm

Lancer wrote:Yeah, Snow might bite for a pick and a puck.


Hell, throw Ballard in as a gift to move up in the draft.

Ballard, 4th (116 overall) round pick to NYI for a 3rd (76th overall) rounder.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Strangelove » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:13 pm

TDA Rum wrote:I don't want a 300 pound Buffy...pass...


http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinio ... 63161.html


DOH I just posted a link to the 302 pound Buffy story in the The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread.

Mind you MY link provided a better story and was HELLA funny....
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Todd Bersnoozi » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:15 am

TDA Rum wrote:I don't want a 300 pound Buffy...pass...

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinio ... 63161.html


I'd still take a chance on him, but I'm biased cuz I luv his game. Perhaps with Buffy having weight issues and his salary being a bit high, he might be available at a lower price tag. Instead of having 1/2 a season, we'd have him for a full season so he has more time to work himself into shape. *LOL*

I know he's listed as a D-man, but I luv him on forward. I'd put him with the sedins and put him on the PP so he can stick his butt in front of opposition goalie's faces just like what he did so well vs Lou. :lol: I remember in those playoffs series we played against the Hawks, I thot he killed us more than Kane/Toews. He was a Canuck killer and I'd luv to see him apply his trade for us rather than against us. :D

I think if the Hawks were able to keep their foot soldiers like Versteeg, Ladd and Buffy, I doubt we beat them in 2011.
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