CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybody?)

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Re: CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybod

Postby rats19 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:02 pm

That is pure 100% on purpose... 2 games
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Re: CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybod

Postby BurningBeard » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:29 pm

It's two games, actually, Keith is a repeat offender so it's more then two. The precedence for this is already clearly established.



Shanny has never contradicted himself, so I don't even know why we're debating this. :drink:
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Re: CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybod

Postby Meds » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:44 pm

Didn't Marty McSorely say afterwards that he was aiming for Brashear's shoulder and missed?

Keith should be treated the same. Done for the playoffs.
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Postby Hockey Widow » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:39 am

It certainly wasn't an accidental high sticking. He intended to whack him with his stick. That much is obvious. I would believe he never intended to whack him in the face but I don't believe the whole incident was accidental. To me then he has to accept 100% responsibility for the outcome.

Now Shanny will probably say that even though Carter had to get stitched up no injury resulted on the play. He will probably say Keith was off balance and didn't really mean to make contact and that the penalty on the ice was sufficient.

As a repeat offender that got off lightly on the Sedin assassination attempt I think he should be gone for the playoffs. I will be surprised if the NHL even considers it further to be honest.
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Postby Hockey Widow » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:56 am

Sportsnet now confirming that Keith WILL face a disciplinary hearing later the afternoon. Sounds like he will get at least 2 games.
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Re: CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybod

Postby ukcanuck » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:19 am

As much as I hate the guy as a hawk, I can't see how it's even remotely the same as mcsorely.


That was basically an unprovoked two handed chop to the side of the head of an unsuspecting brashear...


This incident should come with a short suspension maybe a game or two at most. but it was provoked by a chop at his hand while trying to pick up his glove. Carter was not innocent and had to expect a retaliation for his actions as well.


Ah fuck Em both I say
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Re: CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybod

Postby Arachnid » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:00 am

Lancer wrote:
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The Appalachian assassin.


He should get the rest of the series. He meant to whack him with the stick. He MEANT to break the rules. Guys that make contact with the head don't necessarily do it on purpose. He's also repeat offender.

Torres got suspended for the remainder of a series for less.

Knowing it's the NHL, I'll say he gets nothing.


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The league doesn't have the balls to fuck with one of its favourites and suspend Keith.

...and the league's integrity takes another blow. How low can it go?


TSN maggots arguing that he gets 0 games suspension, unreal, he is a repeat dick offender, shows that everyone has a blind spot for some teams while easily ignoring other legit complaints like the Sedin penalty this year.

Fucking bullshit if he doesn't get at least 2. If none I will not watch anymore games this year even if the Pens make it to the Final.
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Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:11 am

Arachnid wrote:Fucking bullshit if he doesn't get at least 2. If none I will not watch anymore games this year even if the Pens make it to the Final.


He should get one game for the incident and one for being a repeat offender.

He'll probably just get one game though.

If he gets no games it could be months before we see donny here again.
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Re: CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybod

Postby ukcanuck » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:11 am

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:
Arachnid wrote:Fucking bullshit if he doesn't get at least 2. If none I will not watch anymore games this year even if the Pens make it to the Final.


He should get one game for the incident and one for being a repeat offender.

He'll probably just get one game though.

If he gets no games it could be months before we see donny here again.

Lol Donny's threats are slightly more credible than spider's

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Re: CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybod

Postby Arachnid » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:46 am

ukcanuck wrote:
Eddy Punch Clock wrote:
Arachnid wrote:Fucking bullshit if he doesn't get at least 2. If none I will not watch anymore games this year even if the Pens make it to the Final.


He should get one game for the incident and one for being a repeat offender.

He'll probably just get one game though.

If he gets no games it could be months before we see donny here again.

Lol Donny's threats are slightly more credible than spider's

Unless its a vow to slam doc for a perceived slight...


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Re: CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybod

Postby BurningBeard » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:48 am

Arachnid wrote:TSN maggots arguing that he gets 0 games suspension, unreal, he is a repeat dick offender, shows that everyone has a blind spot for some teams while easily ignoring other legit complaints like the Sedin penalty this year.

If you saw the cut to the panel during SportsCenter last night, the circles they went in to defend Keith were truly unreal. "It was clearly an accident" was said several times. I've never seen the favoritism so clearly on display before.

The slash was intentional, even Keith admitted that, and although some may make the argument the specific point of contact was accidental, the NHL has *never* given that argument any merit. That's like saying you can cold-cock a guy in the face, but if he happens to fall as a result, and accidentally break his neck, it should be forgiven... umm... yeah.

What I don't get as well is the penalty on the ice. It happened right in front of the ref, who saw it, and rightfully gave him 4 minutes, but how is that not a game misconduct?
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Re: CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybod

Postby Meds » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:00 pm

ukcanuck wrote:As much as I hate the guy as a hawk, I can't see how it's even remotely the same as mcsorely.


That was basically an unprovoked two handed chop to the side of the head of an unsuspecting brashear...


This incident should come with a short suspension maybe a game or two at most. but it was provoked by a chop at his hand while trying to pick up his glove. Carter was not innocent and had to expect a retaliation for his actions as well.


Ah fuck Em both I say


Pretty much. I likened it to McSorley's hack on Brashear only in that it was an intentional slash that contacted the head, targeted body area doesn't matter. I don't think Keith should be gone for a calendar year, but at some point the message needs to be sent, and sent is a manner that drives the point home to everyone. Recklessness, thoughtlessness, and retaliation, will not be tolerated. These guys are adults. Treat them as such.

What message does this send to young hockey players, who idolize these over paid babies, if Keith gets a slap on the wrist and nothing more?
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Re: CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybod

Postby ukcanuck » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:34 pm

Meds wrote:
ukcanuck wrote:As much as I hate the guy as a hawk, I can't see how it's even remotely the same as mcsorely.


That was basically an unprovoked two handed chop to the side of the head of an unsuspecting brashear...


This incident should come with a short suspension maybe a game or two at most. but it was provoked by a chop at his hand while trying to pick up his glove. Carter was not innocent and had to expect a retaliation for his actions as well.


Ah fuck Em both I say


Pretty much. I likened it to McSorley's hack on Brashear only in that it was an intentional slash that contacted the head, targeted body area doesn't matter. I don't think Keith should be gone for a calendar year, but at some point the message needs to be sent, and sent is a manner that drives the point home to everyone. Recklessness, thoughtlessness, and retaliation, will not be tolerated. These guys are adults. Treat them as such.

What message does this send to young hockey players, who idolize these over paid babies, if Keith gets a slap on the wrist and nothing more?

What lesson to be learned? How about Never trust a Vulcan.
Or never trust the NHL head office
Or better yet if you chop your stick at a guys bare hand expect a stick back in your face?

No actually the lesson to be learned work on your left crossovers cause the pay is WAY better in pro hockey than just about any other career :D
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Postby SKYO » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:05 pm

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Re: CHI v. LA and BOS v. PIT (and Van v. ...Beuller...anybod

Postby Reefer2 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:16 pm

Have not watch much hockey this playoff but watching Boston/Pitts I forgot what exciting hockey looks like.

The Canucks are nothing like the last 4 teams in excitement and skill.
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