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I believe the Isles are cheap enough to lose a trade badly if it means saving them a $30m buyout but would they offer up enough to make it worth it to the Canucks?ukcanuck wrote:I like botchfords column in the province, trade luongo for dopietro
http://www.theprovince.com/touch/story.html?id=8458051
Yeah that's exactly what it is.herb wrote:I have a hard time believing the Aquilinis would be willing to eat that massive Dipietro buyout. Isn't it like $1.5M for 16 years? They'd probably rather give Luongo away, and tell Gillis to figure shit out.
Yes, it seems unlikely, unless the Aquilini's do a cost/benefit analysis that the move will get them 3-6 more playoff home dates and pay for itself, and more over the years. Who knows if that is the way it would actually work out, but if the move actually improved the team such that they were a 2nd round regular (I'm not even talking Cup finalist etc) then the playoff rev could be worth it. Still, I wouldn't be betting the farm, or even my backyard garden, on this move actually happening. To be sure, Darren Dreger will do all he can to kill it the very idea of it...dbr wrote:Yeah that's exactly what it is.herb wrote:I have a hard time believing the Aquilinis would be willing to eat that massive Dipietro buyout. Isn't it like $1.5M for 16 years? They'd probably rather give Luongo away, and tell Gillis to figure shit out.
Although, they were willing to give Roberto $1.4m over his cap hit for quite a long time. Bieksa is earning over his cap hit, so is Garrison, so is Booth and now Edler too..
Honestly when you look at it as just paying 2-3% over the cap (for quite a long time) it doesn't seem nearly as egregious as having to put up $24m in cash this summer. For a franchise making tens of millions a year it's pretty doable.
dbr wrote:Yeah that's exactly what it is.
Although, they were willing to give Roberto $1.4m over his cap hit for quite a long time. Bieksa is earning over his cap hit, so is Garrison, so is Booth and now Edler too..
Honestly when you look at it as just paying 2-3% over the cap (for quite a long time) it doesn't seem nearly as egregious as having to put up $24m in cash this summer. For a franchise making tens of millions a year it's pretty doable.
It just seems wrong as the buyout term is so ridiculous. Commiting themselves to $24M, for basically nothing, would be an interesting sell to any businessman, but you're right, who knows what the actual team budget is. It's probably closer to $100M, so $1.5M isn't really all that much. FWIW, $1.5M over 16 years still represents a negative NPV today of nearly $14M...Boston Canucker wrote:Yes, it seems unlikely, unless the Aquilini's do a cost/benefit analysis that the move will get them 3-6 more playoff home dates and pay for itself, and more over the years. Who knows if that is the way it would actually work out, but if the move actually improved the team such that they were a 2nd round regular (I'm not even talking Cup finalist etc) then the playoff rev could be worth it. Still, I wouldn't be betting the farm, or even my backyard garden, on this move actually happening. To be sure, Darren Dreger will do all he can to kill it the very idea of it...
If the Canucks cannot trade RL straight up, then here is the solution: Put him on waivers.herb wrote:I have a hard time believing the Aquilinis would be willing to eat that massive Dipietro buyout. Isn't it like $1.5M for 16 years? They'd probably rather give Luongo away, and tell Gillis to figure shit out.
The Islanders have been my wild assed guess at where 7uon8o will end up for a while now. If they had any decent goaltending, whatsoever, they would've beaten the Pens. No way in hell does Aquilini take back Dipietro though.
Roberto Luongo in the AHL is costing his NHL team $4.4m on the cap under the current CBA.Zedlee wrote:If the Canucks cannot trade RL straight up, then here is the solution: Put him on waivers.
If he's taken, problem solved.
If not taken: bury him in the minors, pay his salary until his "out" clause kicks in, which I believe is in year 5 of his contract. So at most the Canucks will have to pay RL for 3 more years, at which time he'll be itching to exercise his out clause and get another shot at the NHL.
Luo is going to be willing to expand his list of teams this summer after the TO debacle.Zedlee wrote: If not taken: bury him in the minors, pay his salary until his "out" clause kicks in, which I believe is in year 5 of his contract. So at most the Canucks will have to pay RL for 3 more years, at which time he'll be itching to exercise his out clause and get another shot at the NHL.
I thought that a team could avoid a cap hit by sending a guy to the minors...like the Rangers did with Redden for 2 seasons. When did the rule change? If this is true then the Luongo predicament is even WORSE than I thought!dbr wrote:Roberto Luongo in the AHL is costing his NHL team $4.4m on the cap under the current CBA.Zedlee wrote:If the Canucks cannot trade RL straight up, then here is the solution: Put him on waivers.
If he's taken, problem solved.
If not taken: bury him in the minors, pay his salary until his "out" clause kicks in, which I believe is in year 5 of his contract. So at most the Canucks will have to pay RL for 3 more years, at which time he'll be itching to exercise his out clause and get another shot at the NHL.
Doesn't matter because he wouldn't clear waivers, but there it is.
thanks Top...guess they wanted to close that "loophole". Holy hell...this IS worse than I thought.Topper wrote:New CBA Zed.
Colorado is in our Conference next year.herb wrote:Colorado is now in a different division, so maybe with Roy there that's a potential destination as well.
I honestly think anywhere but Edmonton and Calgary are potential destinations.
If you can pry out some of the Isles solid prospects to move Lou for the equivalent of asswipe money to the Aquilinis I'd say you take a good hard look at it.herb wrote:
It just seems wrong as the buyout term is so ridiculous. Commiting themselves to $24M, for basically nothing, would be an interesting sell to any businessman, but you're right, who knows what the actual team budget is. It's probably closer to $100M, so $1.5M isn't really all that much. FWIW, $1.5M over 16 years still represents a negative NPV today of nearly $14M...
