Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby vic » Wed May 22, 2013 4:32 pm

herb wrote:Any time you have the opportunity to add a 27 year old, who is a proven 25+ goal, 70+ point guy, you jump on that opportunity (unless he's a douche bag or known head case).


Now that AV's gone, you have a point.

Ballard was a proven 40+ point defenceman (on two teams), then he ran into AV.
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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby RoyalDude » Wed May 22, 2013 8:58 pm

Who will be the first to flip the switch? Kassian, Booth or Ballard? Players who will be something they are not, good hockey players for this team.
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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby Cornuck » Wed May 22, 2013 11:03 pm

RoyalDude wrote:Who will be the first to flip the switch? Kassian, Booth or Ballard? Players who will be something they are not, good hockey players for this team.


Excellent, positive contribution. Maybe you should flip the switch and turn your computer off.
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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby ClamRussel » Thu May 23, 2013 12:58 am

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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby Mr.Miyagi » Thu May 23, 2013 5:30 am

ClamRussel wrote:David Clarkson


I second that. Whatever it takes. Goal scoring asshole? Exactly what we need!

Gillis wants to make a bold move ... sign Clarkson. Cap space will be a problem but if he gets a buyout or two, deals Luongo, etc. He can make it happen.
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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby Reefer2 » Thu May 23, 2013 8:10 am

Mr.Miyagi wrote:
ClamRussel wrote:David Clarkson


I second that. Whatever it takes. Goal scoring asshole? Exactly what we need!

Gillis wants to make a bold move ... sign Clarkson. Cap space will be a problem but if he gets a buyout or two, deals Luongo, etc. He can make it happen.


What I find interesting about Clarkson is that he was never drafted yet had a very succesful season. This is why unless you draft in the top 3 positions you don't know what your going to get and it is all about player development within the system.

Another HUGE reason why I am glad AV is gone, he is not a coach who can develop a player. I dont this put this all on him as the NHL coach needs to be in sync with the AHL coach and work together but the responsability lies on AV. Last season when we had the division wrapped up Feb we never once saw time increased for the young guys or even give them a chance.

I hope the new coach does a better job on this.

I also have very little belief in how teams are ranked for prospects, the way some of the prospects are ranked is worse that how TSN decides the power rankings of the NHL teams.
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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Thu May 23, 2013 8:56 am

Cornuck wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:Who will be the first to flip the switch? Kassian, Booth or Ballard? Players who will be something they are not, good hockey players for this team.


Excellent, positive contribution. Maybe you should flip the switch and turn your computer off.


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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby herb » Thu May 23, 2013 9:08 am

Cornuck wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:Who will be the first to flip the switch? Kassian, Booth or Ballard? Players who will be something they are not, good hockey players for this team.


Excellent, positive contribution. Maybe you should flip the switch and turn your computer off.


LOL best post of the off season so far.
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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby Topper » Thu May 23, 2013 10:04 am

Reefer2 wrote:Another HUGE reason why I am glad AV is gone, he is not a coach who can develop a player.

How many fucking times do you need it drilled into your head.

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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby Hockey Widow » Thu May 23, 2013 10:44 am

What the Sedin's need is for us to have a strong 2nd line scoring threat with a good 3rd line presence and the ability to also score. Give them that and you give them the room on the ice to play with anyone. Also on o bigger ice surface they have more room to dazzle so I don't think what they are doing at the World's translates to the NHL without secondary scoring.
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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby Vader » Thu May 23, 2013 11:04 am

Topper wrote:
Reefer2 wrote:Another HUGE reason why I am glad AV is gone, he is not a coach who can develop a player.

How many fucking times do you need it drilled into your head.

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Schneider
Tanev

FWIW Hodgson was fairly productive in sheltered minutes...
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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby Uncle dans leg » Thu May 23, 2013 11:14 am

Vader wrote:
Topper wrote:
Reefer2 wrote:Another HUGE reason why I am glad AV is gone, he is not a coach who can develop a player.

How many fucking times do you need it drilled into your head.

Bieksa
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Raymond
Hansen
Edler


Add
Schneider
Tanev

FWIW Hodgson was fairly productive in sheltered minutes...

Not to mention Corrado most recently. I think this notion is a total myth as he really only demands young players to be held defensively accountable.
The Coilers are the other end of the spectrum...the on-ice results speak for themselves unless you argue they are the more successful franchise due to the number of young, up-and-coming players allowed to fail their way out of the playoffs every year... :eh:
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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Thu May 23, 2013 11:39 am

And to add to that UDL, if the Oilers make the playoffs five years in a row and win a couple Presidents trophies and make the finals it will be because Steve Tambellini built that club with all of those great draft picks. Forget the fact his team was hot garbage for five years, he built that team damn it.
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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby Topper » Thu May 23, 2013 11:54 am

Vader wrote:FWIW Hodgson was fairly productive in sheltered minutes...

I'd bet money that if Cody wasn't being pumped for a dump, his lack of defensive awareness would have had him in suit and tie or a Wolves uniform.

AV never coddled a young forward he coddled Cody.
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Re: Which Free Agents Should Gillis Shoot For

Postby FAN » Thu May 23, 2013 12:34 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:Not to mention Corrado most recently. I think this notion is a total myth as he really only demands young players to be held defensively accountable.

AV can develop defensemen but he can't develop offensive forwards. The forwards he gave special treatment to were the forwards who played for him in the AHL. A year ago, management was still talking about Hansen's "potential" to score 20 goals. I'm not even sure you can even call Raymond as an offensive forward AV developed in hindsight. Raymond's totals this season are virtually identical to what he put up in his regular season. Take away his one good season and Raymond hasn't made any progress. All other forwards got their start as checkers and was given enough ice time to evolve into offensive players.
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