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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby Aaronp18 » Mon May 20, 2013 2:30 pm

That girl nearest the TV is a closet Canucks fan, check out the smirk she's hiding!

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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby donlever » Tue May 21, 2013 8:53 am

...I watched the final 10 minutes and all the OT of the Pens/Sens game the other night.

Longest duration of hockey I've seen all year.

It was great!

Highly entertaining.

I'll venture a guess that the local team looked nothing like any of that this season past.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby Aaronp18 » Tue May 21, 2013 9:10 am

donlever wrote:I'll venture a guess that the local team looked nothing like any of that this season past.


We saw flashes.

None of which were in the playoffs!
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Tue May 21, 2013 9:15 am

Aaronp18 wrote:
donlever wrote:I'll venture a guess that the local team looked nothing like any of that this season past.


We saw flashes.

None of which were in the playoffs!


They were very far and few between... and outside of the last Chicago game, never for a full 60 minutes.

Most of the games we did win were on the back of one of the goalies.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby Aaronp18 » Tue May 21, 2013 9:26 am

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:They were very far and few between... and outside of the last Chicago game, never for a full 60 minutes.

Most of the games we did win were on the back of one of the goalies.


The only other game that comes to mind was the Kings game they won 5-2.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby Arachnid » Tue May 21, 2013 12:33 pm

Is Bert injured or just too old and slow for the mighty Reds? I was surprised to see him scratched...
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby donlever » Tue May 21, 2013 12:51 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:
Eddy Punch Clock wrote:They were very far and few between... and outside of the last Chicago game, never for a full 60 minutes.

Most of the games we did win were on the back of one of the goalies.


The only other game that comes to mind was the Kings game they won 5-2.



They looked good in two (partial) games this year?

Wow.

Playing their asses off for AV eh?

Let's play a game and guess some of the excuses:


Luo and Schneids both here caused issues

Kes hurt

Other injuries

Refs

Ballards fault

To small

Not tough enough

Coaching makes to many changes to lines
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby rats19 » Tue May 21, 2013 1:28 pm

donlever wrote:
Aaronp18 wrote:
Eddy Punch Clock wrote:They were very far and few between... and outside of the last Chicago game, never for a full 60 minutes.

Most of the games we did win were on the back of one of the goalies.


The only other game that comes to mind was the Kings game they won 5-2.



They looked good in two (partial) games this year?

Wow.

Playing their asses off for AV eh?

Let's play a game and guess some of the excuses:


Luo and Schneids both here caused issues

Kes hurt

Other injuries

Refs

Ballards fault

To small

Not tough enough

Coaching makes to many changes to lines


Added up thems formidable issues :bang: :bang:
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby herb » Tue May 21, 2013 1:29 pm

donlever wrote:They looked good in two (partial) games this year?

Wow.

Playing their asses off for AV eh?


Don, honestly they looked great in those two games against Chicago and LA that others are talking about.

There were a few other games where they looked strong (the second game against Anaheim, our first game, a SOL, against LA, and our other games against Chicago come to mind).

Aside from a handful of games, the team played like garbage. Most games against "inferior" opposition were downright disappointing to watch as they either squeeked out wins or looked terrible (see any game against Edmonton this year).


donlever wrote:Let's play a game and guess some of the excuses:


Luo and Schneids both here caused issues

Kes hurt

Other injuries

Refs

Ballards fault

To small

Not tough enough

Coaching makes to many changes to lines


I honestly don't think any excuses fly this year. Last year they were "tired", in years previous injuries were the excuse.

Not this time. This is a talented, experienced, deep, veteran team that simply did not look interested and/or motivated to get up and play 60+ minutes most nights. There was no hunger or excitement to play. This team looked like they expected to win, and most nights they were in there despite pathetic efforts, but they couldn't be bothered to put in the required effort. Looking back and hindsight being what it is, we saw the exact same thing in 2011/12. A team that looked like it thought it was entitled to win, but wasn't willing to go out there and do what's needed to earn victories. Did they forget each season starts anew after 2010/11?

This is very troubling, and points to major leadership issues which is why the first move has to be to fire the entire coaching staff. Then the core "leadership" group needs to be examined, remoulded, rebuilt, added to, whatever.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby donlever » Tue May 21, 2013 1:50 pm

herb wrote:
This is very troubling, and points to major leadership issues which is why the first move has to be to fire the entire coaching staff. Then the core "leadership" group needs to be examined, remoulded, rebuilt, added to, whatever.


Yeah.

My view from afar looks like trouble to me.

Sedins aging (when do they hit the can't get it done wall like Naslund, Linden et cetera), Kesler injury prone (?), minimal farm depth, kinda smallish non-aggro group, coaching staff good but played out here, some shitty contracts to deal with and a new cap coming...

It seems like it's closing in on last call and the Canucks might just be going home alone.

Again.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby Uncle dans leg » Tue May 21, 2013 1:56 pm

donlever wrote:
herb wrote:
This is very troubling, and points to major leadership issues which is why the first move has to be to fire the entire coaching staff. Then the core "leadership" group needs to be examined, remoulded, rebuilt, added to, whatever.


Yeah.

My view from afar looks like trouble to me.

Sedins aging (when do they hit the can't get it done wall like Naslund, Linden et cetera), Kesler injury prone (?), minimal farm depth, kinda smallish non-aggro group, coaching staff good but played out here, some shitty contracts to deal with and a new cap coming...

It seems like it's closing in on last call and the Canucks might just be going home alone.

Again.

If you were going to pick a year to move core guys for 1st rounders(while they still have some value---ahem... Flames)...this would be the one. An exceptionally deep draft(supposedly) looms ahead and sometimes it takes an honest eye from management to recognize when your goose is cooked. This would also be an admission of failure, so this course of action likely doesn't happen without a change at the top.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby Topper » Tue May 21, 2013 1:57 pm

donlever wrote:
herb wrote:
This is very troubling, and points to major leadership issues which is why the first move has to be to fire the entire coaching staff. Then the core "leadership" group needs to be examined, remoulded, rebuilt, added to, whatever.


Yeah.

My view from afar looks like trouble to me.

Sedins aging (when do they hit the can't get it done wall like Naslund, Linden et cetera), Kesler injury prone (?), minimal farm depth, kinda smallish non-aggro group, coaching staff good but played out here, some shitty contracts to deal with and a new cap coming...

It seems like it's closing in on last call and the Canucks might just be going home alone.

Again.

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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby donlever » Tue May 21, 2013 2:11 pm

Topper wrote: More sandpaper in the vaseline?


For one night anyway, if you're drunk enough and have tried everything else.

It might hurt like a cocksucker but a nice payoff may come from it.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby herb » Tue May 21, 2013 2:25 pm

donlever wrote:Yeah.

My view from afar looks like trouble to me.

Sedins aging (when do they hit the can't get it done wall like Naslund, Linden et cetera), Kesler injury prone (?), minimal farm depth, kinda smallish non-aggro group, coaching staff good but played out here, some shitty contracts to deal with and a new cap coming...

It seems like it's closing in on last call and the Canucks might just be going home alone.

Again.


Well, colour me optimistic, but this neurotic Canucks fan doesn't quite think this group (i.e. the Sedin era) is done yet!

There are still some very good pieces, but the overhaul this team needs is substantial. The goal has been to be competitive every year like Detroit, but to continue to do so, the Canucks need a serious injection of youth. I'm talking four or five early 20-something guys who can contribute every night and bring some much needed life to this group. Maybe Jensen and Gaunce can contribute next year, but either way reinforcements definitely need to be brought in from other organizations in the form of bold moves.
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Re: Round 1 Discussion (non Canucks)

Postby donlever » Tue May 21, 2013 2:32 pm

herb wrote: Well, colour me optimistic.


You can always hope right?

I mean sheee-it, the Saints won a Gawd damned Super Bowl did they not?!

Hence.

Anything can happen.
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