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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Wed May 08, 2013 1:02 pm

Topper wrote:On a side note, is c-hair becoming a lost unit of measurement?


Not by a cuntry bushfull.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby Vpete » Wed May 08, 2013 1:09 pm

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:
Topper wrote:On a side note, is c-hair becoming a lost unit of measurement?


Not by a cuntry bushfull.


I only used it for distance measurement- as in how far I could spit one.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby tantalum » Wed May 08, 2013 1:10 pm

The Pens will be looking for a goaltender.

So to will the Habs IMO as I think they are not satisfied with Price (unfortunate for Budaj to have to enter the game cold to start OT).

The Isles also will be as they should look to improve that position with what should be a long term solution.

Markstrom was not good for the Panthers. Some great games but more poor ones.

Do the Wild need a goaltender this summer?

Is winnipeg satisfied with pavelec (they shouldn't be)?

Does tampa roll the dice on a youngster (seems they will).

Flyers need help

Avs need help

Stars goaltending has not been good

Toronto of course.


i think there could be quite a few teams looking to shake up the goaltending.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby Vpete » Wed May 08, 2013 1:14 pm

Tant I can tell you that Winnipeg will sit on Pavelec- they made the rookie mistake of pre-paying for potential that may not ever have existed.

There are too many Pavelec cheer leaders in the organization to give up on him after year 1 of that deal.

If the goal is to improve the team and get the best return possible then Gillis should move Schneider IMO. Jersey may want a guy like him.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby SKYO » Wed May 08, 2013 1:16 pm

Some good points there tant, maybe the goalie market will open up more now after all the teams have a season and playoffs to analyze their goaltending situation, and all of that could help MG keep his job!
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby Topper » Wed May 08, 2013 1:16 pm

Islanders is intriguing. It means eating some crow on all the DiPietro moves but the move to Brooklyn makes the destination more palatable for Lou.

No idea how the Pens would do it capwise next year.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby herb » Wed May 08, 2013 1:20 pm

Topper wrote:Islanders is intriguing. The move to Brooklyn makes the destination more palatable for Lou.


A year ago we would have laughed at this suggestion. Not so much now.

Good breakdown Tant. Pens would have to find a taker for Fleury, or buy him out.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby tantalum » Wed May 08, 2013 1:58 pm

herb wrote:
Topper wrote:Islanders is intriguing. The move to Brooklyn makes the destination more palatable for Lou.


A year ago we would have laughed at this suggestion. Not so much now.

Good breakdown Tant. Pens would have to find a taker for Fleury, or buy him out.


Yep they'd have to move Fleury. I know I'd take Luongo over Fleury every day of the week and twice on Sundays especially at the same cap hit! I think it would be a very very good move for the Pens to shore up goaltending for the next 5 or 6 years.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby herb » Wed May 08, 2013 2:11 pm

tantalum wrote:Yep they'd have to move Fleury. I know I'd take Luongo over Fleury every day of the week and twice on Sundays especially at the same cap hit! I think it would be a very very good move for the Pens to shore up goaltending for the next 5 or 6 years.


Yup. I'd go after Luongo in a heartbeat if I were Pittsburgh. Hopefully MAF and Vokoun continue to play like shit, and the Pens get bounced in Round 1. Let's go Islanders!
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby SKYO » Wed May 08, 2013 2:24 pm

Yeah I have hard time believing Buffalo would want Miller still playing in the East, at least for next season, which rules him out for the Pens.

And some dumb GM's will probably way overpay Smith and Backstrom in the offseason.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby ukcanuck » Wed May 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Topper wrote:
donlever wrote:Schneider starting game 3 and 4 after Luongo was apparently good in the first two combined with this equals not such good news for any hopes of him staying around methinks. Bye bye Luo.

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2013/05/luon ... le-photos/

I lived in penthouse suite in Jamaica. Great afro-disiac. Get a chick in that place, one look around and her panties hit the floor a c-hair before her knees.

On a side note, is c-hair becoming a lost unit of measurement?

Yes I believe it is along with crab lice:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-13/brazilian-bikini-waxes-make-crab-lice-endangered-species-health.html
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby Arachnid » Wed May 08, 2013 4:07 pm

ukcanuck wrote:
Topper wrote:
donlever wrote:Schneider starting game 3 and 4 after Luongo was apparently good in the first two combined with this equals not such good news for any hopes of him staying around methinks. Bye bye Luo.

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2013/05/luon ... le-photos/

I lived in penthouse suite in Jamaica. Great afro-disiac. Get a chick in that place, one look around and her panties hit the floor a c-hair before her knees.

On a side note, is c-hair becoming a lost unit of measurement?

Yes I believe it is along with crab lice:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-13/brazilian-bikini-waxes-make-crab-lice-endangered-species-health.html


Ewwwwwww....my GF is half Brazilian... :D

Pittsburgh might be looking for a solid goalie next year, maybe they buy out MAF?! and Luo can get a Steeltown condo! :thumbs:
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby Vpete » Wed May 08, 2013 5:46 pm

The idea of a retool seems redundant to me as I think Gillis has tried that. He brought in Booth and shipped out Samuelsson. Let Ehrhoff go but got Garrison. Kept Lappy and Higgins but let Torres go.

Whatever the reasons he made his attempt to improve the roster that got him to game 7 at SCF. Now it seems any move has to be more a core structural one. To do so means looking at Burrows, Sedins, Bieksa, Edler, Kesler and both goalies.

Tony Gallagher has hinted if not said there are pockets of discontent with AV from players. So whatever truth there is does starting with AV not make sense?

It's cheaper than other moves in some ways.

The cap will also force changes larger than a retool too. To get down with some space means players are gone and the replacement may not be much better because of what can be afforded. Factor in what coul remain and it may not be a roster that suits AV's style or technique. Another reason to move the coach first.

Thus I think Gillis is given time to get out of his retool mess but that plan will revolve around whether AV is the right coach for what he wants after changes.

Look at it any way and I can't see changes being a retool, it has to be more and I think Canucks fans should be okay with that.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby tantalum » Wed May 08, 2013 6:24 pm

Last I heard that since Ruff was canned, the Sabres-Miller relationship had a bit of a thaw (i.e. they may actually look at extending him). Miller was frustrated at the lack of effort of many of his teammates and was vocal about it. once the coaching change was made the players were held accountable for poor performances through benchings and scratches.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby Lancer » Wed May 08, 2013 6:34 pm

Vpete wrote:Thus I think Gillis is given time to get out of his retool mess but that plan will revolve around whether AV is the right coach for what he wants after changes. Look at it any way and I can't see changes being a retool, it has to be more and I think Canucks fans should be okay with that.


I think the jury's in - AV is no longer the right coach. No more than Ruff was the right coach anymore in Buffalo. His dismissal has to be the first move and hopefully it will be announced tomorrow.

After that, it's some serious and dispassionate player analysis that needs happening.

Nice point Tant, about the goalie market. I have a feeling that there will be some hard decisions made in light of the latest goalie meltdowns. As much as it will make Cheezeburglar's-special-sauce-gargler Dreger cry, I think Cheezeburglar's tough guy FU act to Gillis re: Luongo at the deadline could be a blessing in disguise.

We'll see how it plays out... :|
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