dbr wrote:No I don't think he'd produce the same numbers in different situations. Doesn't make him a "garbage" hockey player. If it makes you feel better I'd say he is firmly better than guys like Matt Stajan.
He is still better than every center on our roster but one, and even then their production might be close by the Pauser's Unique Points System standard.
What the hell are you talking about?
I was explaining your irrational hatred of Tyler Bozak to another poster who perhaps is unaware of your misadventures on other boards. Remind me again why we lost the SCF in 2011?
Please, if you want a solid discussion then don't talk out of your ass about things you don't understand.
You're right, I should leave it to more sophisticated thinkers than I to try to invent metrics for offensive production that invalidate the achievements of players I don't personally like.
You really think Bozak is a better center than Henrik Sedin and Ryan Kesler?
No, if you go back and reread my post I said " better than every center on our roster but one
," just to help you along here the bold part excludes Ryan Kesler
and the italics exclude Henrik Sedin
So I think Bozak is a better center than Max Lapierre - at least based on Max's play this season (he's certainly capable of elevating his game), and Jordan Schroeder. Didn't think that would be super controversial but I suppose it is if you completely misread it to mean something other than what I said.
Bozak is an average 3C who will cost a lot more than he's worth. He's the anti-moneypuck player.
This I agree with, but of course I never advocated trading for him.
I just don't think "an average 3C" is "garbage" or "a crap hockey player" - in fact this team badly needs "an average 3C" right about now.. and just to stop your other hobby horse in its tracks this team needs a lot more than a third line center right now but that doesn't mean they don't also need that player.