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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby okcanuck » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:55 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
okcanuck wrote:
okcanuck wrote:RD are you critical of Gillis for not making a deal with the Laughs in the summer?



Were you after Gillis for not making a trade with the leafs in the summer? simple question


The bottom line is, I'm a fan only, not the one in charge of making important decisions for a professional hockey club. My opinion means fuck all. All a fan can do is give his personal feelings on a GM's decision makings and so far Gillis waffling, fence sitting, stubborn over evaluations of his own players, useless tinkering, bad drafting, bad trading, bad contracts is fucking this team over. He is the one to be judged not I.


You didn't really answer the question,but what if you knew that Luongo squashed the Laughs deal in the summer,which tied Gillis's hands,because thats exactly what happened.
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby Tiger » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:04 pm

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The Nucks would be riding shotgun without the goalies eh? Then how do we give Nonis and Burkie all this credot for Kesler, Bieksa, Raymond, Hansen et al? If the team sucks that badly without the goalies doesnt it stand to reason that these players also suck? Not sure why we haved to give them all this credit if they drafted shitty players.

As I said before you decided to go on yet another rant, ig GIllis does nothing to improve the team this deadline I will definitely criticize him, as I've already done for the Ballard trade. You will criticize him whatever happens, because that's what you do.

We'll see what happens.


OK I can agree on that to a certain point.. But so far Gillis's track record is not good..If he can pull the rabbit out of the hat and make the Canucks into a contender again before next season starts it will be a miracle ( Maybe Booths praying will do it? ).
The Sedins are declining and there are no replacements in sight. Maybe they could build a new first line around Kesler if he returns from injury in top playing shape? Use the Sedins as the best 2nd line in hockey? Dunno if he's got the cap space or jam to pull that off and not sure which players could be added through trade or free agency.. But like you say .." Lets see what happens".
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby Hockey Widow » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:14 pm

The Sedins have said they want one more contract after their current one expires. They want it to be with the Canucks. Whether they take one year deals here on out who knows but I would think they will get one more contract with MG. Maybe a 2 year deal for a reduced cap hit. Maybe as much as 1-1.5 reduced each. I think we have a few more years with the twins so it's not like we have to have these replacements in place for the 2015 season. Soon, but not that soon.
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:15 pm

okcanuck wrote:
You didn't really answer the question,but what if you knew that Luongo squashed the Laughs deal in the summer,which tied Gillis's hands,because thats exactly what happened.


Just curious, what do you think of HW's inside source saying that to date Lou has never been asked to waive his NTC? What does that mean? Give me a hockey lesson.
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby okcanuck » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:27 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
okcanuck wrote:
You didn't really answer the question,but what if you knew that Luongo squashed the Laughs deal in the summer,which tied Gillis's hands,because thats exactly what happened.


Just curious, what do you think of HW's inside source saying that to date Lou has never been asked to waive his NTC? What does that mean? Give me a hockey lesson.


Why would Luongo waive his NTC he earned it the same as Iginla. Its only a NTC in the sense that Luongo can veto any trade proposed back to him. The story is that they had a deal with the Laughs in the summer, Luongo vetoed it ,which would only downgrade the value of Luongo being traded to, for instance Florida, which is where Luongo wanted to go.Dont blame Gillis for that one.
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:30 pm

okcanuck wrote: Why would Luongo waive his NTC he earned it the same as Iginla. Its only a NTC in the sense that Luongo can veto any trade proposed back to him. The story is that they had a deal with the Laughs in the summer, Luongo vetoed it ,which would only downgrade the value of Luongo being traded to, for instance Florida, which is where Luongo wanted to go.Dont blame Gillis for that one.


Look for the bold writing^

OOOOHHHHHH, he veto'd the trade, I get it, he wasn't asked to remove his NTC for an apparent trade with the Leafs then? It never got to that point. Thanks for the lesson. ;)
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby Uncle dans leg » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:31 pm

Gotta agree with the Dude and HW....sounds like fiction
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby Arachnid » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:12 pm

Gotta admit, I'm enjoying the mayhem that is ensuing on this board right now :D

First the trade Schneider antics, Damien Cox said it so it must be true Make Believers, then atheists are racists...can't wait for the trade deadline to be over and the playoffs to start so the Experts on here can build their cyber-egos up on who is right or wrong on whether the Canucks are an Elite/Contender/Has-been team.

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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby Uncle dans leg » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:15 pm

Arachnid wrote:Gotta admit, I'm enjoying the mayhem that is ensuing on this board right now :D

First the trade Schneider antics, Damien Cox said it so it must be true Make Believers, then atheists are racists...can't wait for the trade deadline to be over and the playoffs to start so the Experts on here can build their cyber-egos up on who is right or wrong on whether the Canucks are an Elite/Contender/Has-been team.

Canuck fans are the Gleeist ever!

Hey :evil:
You forgot your happy pills again! Time for a bit more GLEE outta YOU!!!!
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby Arachnid » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:49 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:
Arachnid wrote:Gotta admit, I'm enjoying the mayhem that is ensuing on this board right now :D

First the trade Schneider antics, Damien Cox said it so it must be true Make Believers, then atheists are racists...can't wait for the trade deadline to be over and the playoffs to start so the Experts on here can build their cyber-egos up on who is right or wrong on whether the Canucks are an Elite/Contender/Has-been team.

Canuck fans are the Gleeist ever!

Hey :evil:
You forgot your happy pills again! Time for a bit more GLEE outta YOU!!!!


I tried, butt there is a monopoly on here lately :blush:

Am I too negative? I want to wait until the first round is over before I lose it! :thumbs:
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby Uncle dans leg » Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:33 pm

Arachnid wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote:
Arachnid wrote:Gotta admit, I'm enjoying the mayhem that is ensuing on this board right now :D

First the trade Schneider antics, Damien Cox said it so it must be true Make Believers, then atheists are racists...can't wait for the trade deadline to be over and the playoffs to start so the Experts on here can build their cyber-egos up on who is right or wrong on whether the Canucks are an Elite/Contender/Has-been team.

Canuck fans are the Gleeist ever!

Hey :evil:
You forgot your happy pills again! Time for a bit more GLEE outta YOU!!!!


I tried, butt there is a monopoly on here lately :blush:

Am I too negative? I want to wait until the first round is before I lose it! :thumbs:

Just yankin yer chain spideyman....the collective has lost its serendipity of late and nerves have frayed to the point of panic!
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:48 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote: Then when the dude has a point crammed down his throat he ignores it like it never happened or conveniently dances around the subject.
Here's one : How different would this team look if Trailer Park Randy didn't step put of the box and fuck up his first round picks from 05 - 07 ? I like the names Anze Kopitar, Chris Stewart and David Perron better than Luc Bourdon, Michael Grabner and Patrick White.

Or how about the fact he constantly uses hf as a tool to back up his arguments yet fails to acknowledge hf thought the Canucks prospects in 05 which included Bieksa, Burrows, Edler, Schneider, Kesler, Raymond and Hansen was 25th in the NHL. Quite the wizards at hf.



I must be an idiot to actually think he might have a counter point when someone pops his lycra balloon.

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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby okcanuck » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:51 pm

The fact of the matter is RD Gillis had a deal with the Laughs and (watch for the bold letters) LUONGO REFUSED IT .Gillis's hands were tied.
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby Island Nucklehead » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:05 pm

okcanuck wrote:The fact of the matter is RD Gillis had a deal with the Laughs and (watch for the bold letters) LUONGO REFUSED IT .Gillis's hands were tied.



If this is true, then Gillis has done well to keep the confusion amongst league/media high. Instead of "Gillis asks Luongo for teams" (Calgary), we get "Gillis never asked him to waive"....

Certainly helps our barganing position when everyone is reporting somehing different.
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Re: Gillis. Who is He?

Postby Hockey Widow » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:30 pm

If the rumours are true, that the Leafs and Canucks had a deal and Luongo refused to waive, because someone on the Panthers told him to be patient that they were going to make a pitch. Well, isn't this tampering?

If true, that a deal was nixed by Luongo, I hope MG asks the league to investigate for tampering. Listen to the media. They all say Luongo was told to be patient that Florida was going to step up.

If it was just Luongo hoping that Florida would step up thats another thing. If MG had a deal in place you would think he would have gone to both Florida based teams before approaching Luongo and would have been able to tell Luongo the status.

Something just doesn't add up in all of this but if it is true then it is a clear case of tampering.
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