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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby paddy » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:35 pm

Conditioning Stint? I dunno to me this team is void of anything beyond 4 guys sending him down to gain confidence and get in shape I don't understand that move IMO I want him here around my medical staff trainers etc ... The only thing more perplexing is bringing up Jensen... Here is a guy that if he plays well are you going to send him down??? This team is so void of talent if he produces I don't see how the team sends him back so they burn a yr of his eligiblity... Conversely if he falters then you have just exposed your finest prospect to a fan and media frenzy that there is no need to expose this kid to at this stage...

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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby Uncle dans leg » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:19 pm

He's probably only up for Kassians conditioning stint. No way we burn a year up. If he shines he'll be up for the playoffs and doesn't apply to his games limit
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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:46 pm

paddy wrote:Conditioning Stint? I dunno to me this team is void of anything beyond 4 guys sending him down to gain confidence and get in shape I don't understand that move IMO I want him here around my medical staff trainers etc ... The only thing more perplexing is bringing up Jensen... Here is a guy that if he plays well are you going to send him down??? This team is so void of talent if he produces I don't see how the team sends him back so they burn a yr of his eligiblity... Conversely if he falters then you have just exposed your finest prospect to a fan and media frenzy that there is no need to expose this kid to at this stage...

Desperation at its best...


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Desperate times for Mike Gillis right now, it's about time we get to see what he truly is made of, so far it's not looking good, but what did we expect from a player agent turned GM? Not much, makes the hiring all the more perplexing.
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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:54 pm

Just curious, when was the last time Kassian scored a goal? I can't remember. I seem to recollect that he made like Anson Carter and Jason King and scored all his goals playing with the Sedins way back at the beginning of this season. For Zacks sake, he best hope that ole Jensen don't set the world on fire in his call up.
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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby ukcanuck » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:18 pm

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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby Tiger » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:41 am

Uncle dans leg wrote:He's probably only up for Kassians conditioning stint. No way we burn a year up. If he shines he'll be up for the playoffs and doesn't apply to his games limit

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Gives Jensen a chance to show his stuff and also to get used to playing with the big club before the playoffs.. Bill Sweat is maybe a move to replace Ballard to allow him to be traded ( fat chance - but hey I can hope ) or put back as defensive depth.. Not bad moves .
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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby Topper » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:42 am

Zach may get more minutes, but not more games.

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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby spooner » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:36 am

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On the same day Kassian sent down - Cody Hodgson was demoted to the 4th line in BUFF. No points in 4 games.
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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:34 am

Tiger wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote:He's probably only up for Kassians conditioning stint. No way we burn a year up. If he shines he'll be up for the playoffs and doesn't apply to his games limit

+1
Gives Jensen a chance to show his stuff and also to get used to playing with the big club before the playoffs.. Bill Sweat is maybe a move to replace Ballard to allow him to be traded ( fat chance - but hey I can hope ) or put back as defensive depth.. Not bad moves .


Just as long as Gillis isn't showcasing his stuff.

I doubt thats the case as one game is not nearly enough; but he is going to be playing with the Sedins and I've read more than a few posts on other boards that have suggested he will be thrown in a Luongo deal Wednesday.

I sure hope not; he's my only untouchable as far as our prospects go.
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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby Topper » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:17 am

Jensen is, younger, bigger, faster.
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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby paddy » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:24 am

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I think given the circumstances these moves smack of desperation... I having a tough time understanding how Jensen is different than any other prospect who has come through here since Gillis/AV have run the show... But somehow this kid will get primetime minutes with primetime players... No other prospect forward or defense has been afforded that opportunity out of the gate NOT ONE they all have had to earn what they eventually got, hell we traded a guy cuz he wanted more ice amongst other things as well...

Thats my issue with this, I just get the sense that people look at this kid as a saviour or a white knight "lets see what the kid can do" There is no need to put your top prospect in that situation especially since under this regime its never been done before...

Kassian is perplexing you say its a conditioning stint fine if thats the case it doesn't bode well for a 22 yr old kid who has missed 8-9 games... I get its a bad back but its not like he has missed 40+ games and had no training camp etc... If its a confidence thing I don't see how sending him down to Chicago as opposed to playing with the twins gets his game back on track confidence wise... Who is down in Chicago that helps him find is game??? That would be my question in a media scrum 2... I would ask it a lil differently I would probably say why fuck with one prospect when you can fuck with two...
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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:38 am

paddy wrote:
ukcanuck wrote:Royal dude, biker dude, big tuna and now paddy...


I think given the circumstances these moves smack of desperation... I having a tough time understanding how Jensen is different than any other prospect who has come through here since Gillis/AV have run the show... But somehow this kid will get primetime minutes with primetime players... No other prospect forward or defense has been afforded that opportunity out of the gate NOT ONE they all have had to earn what they eventually got, hell we traded a guy cuz he wanted more ice amongst other things as well...

Thats my issue with this, I just get the sense that people look at this kid as a saviour or a white knight "lets see what the kid can do" There is no need to put your top prospect in that situation especially since under this regime its never been done before...

Kassian is perplexing you say its a conditioning stint fine if thats the case it doesn't bode well for a 22 yr old kid who has missed 8-9 games... I get its a bad back but its not like he has missed 40+ games and had no training camp etc... If its a confidence thing I don't see how sending him down to Chicago as opposed to playing with the twins gets his game back on track confidence wise... Who is down in Chicago that helps him find is game??? That would be my question in a media scrum 2... I would ask it a lil differently I would probably say why fuck with one prospect when you can fuck with two...


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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby Island Nucklehead » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:08 pm

paddy wrote:
ukcanuck wrote:Royal dude, biker dude, big tuna and now paddy...


I think given the circumstances these moves smack of desperation... I having a tough time understanding how Jensen is different than any other prospect who has come through here since Gillis/AV have run the show... But somehow this kid will get primetime minutes with primetime players... No other prospect forward or defense has been afforded that opportunity out of the gate NOT ONE they all have had to earn what they eventually got, hell we traded a guy cuz he wanted more ice amongst other things as well...


Well usually it's our D that are riddled with injuries. Hansen got the call when he was 21. Oberg had a couple games at 21. Tanev had 29 games at 21. Hodgson was 20 (like Jensen) when he got the call. I really fail to see how this is a huge deal. Jensen played in the Elitserien this year, that's a league that featured Kopitar, Landeskog, Bobby Ryan, Alex Steen etc. during the lockout. It's a high-level league.

Obviously, in a perfect world we wouldn't need Jensen this season. That's the luxury of depth. It's also a luxury we don't have anymore. There is a SERIOUS lack of forward skill on this team right now, thanks to injuries. Gillis and AV have tried to bring up more seasoned pro's, and they've done nothing for us. Jensen is an asset, and has skill. He'll be raw, but at this point we need some goals, more than we need tight-checking grinders.

How is it desperate to use the assets you have that give you the best chance to win? I would say a far more desperate move would be pissing Luongo away for a rental 3rd line centre.
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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:29 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:There is a SERIOUS lack of forward skill on this team right now, thanks to injuries. Gillis and AV have tried to bring up more seasoned pro's, and they've done nothing for us. Jensen is an asset, and has skill. He'll be raw, but at this point we need some goals, more than we need tight-checking grinders.



You mean, you don't think we need a shut down centre-man or Ryan Clowe's zero goals in 28 games :)

Anyhow, I agree 100%. When you have your two go-to guys on offense in Hank and Dank sitting 30th and 35th on the scoring leader board when we were spoiled to seeing them regularly in the top 10 for a good number years, you know there is trouble at bay. Combine that with the fact that Kesler lost his scoring touch all of last season and that fact that we simply cannot count on much production from him coming off of IR on the eve of the playoffs. Add in Booth's 1 empty net goal in 11 games and maybe coming off of IR on the eve of the playoffs as well, throw in the possibility of trading one of our best offensive players this season in Raymond. A power play that is the worst in the league, a team that sits 19th in scoring. I would say that it's a safe bet that this team could use some offensive skill on the TOP 2 LINES in the area of GOALS!
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Re: Canucks Call Up Jensen, Kassian demoted

Postby vic » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:59 pm

So Kassian was sent down to get more minutes because in AV's system ZK is nothing more than a 3rd or 4th liner.

Jensen, on the other hand, is a guy who's never played an NHL game in his life, and has played a handful (or 2) games in the North American system is being called up to get 1st line minutes.
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