Mondi wrote:You're also talking about the goalie who had 2 the three 3 worst statistical games in his career in the playoffs. The guy who ritualistically melts down in big games. And the guy who "won" gold medal with a decent team in front of him.
Let me be clear, I'm not shitting on Luongo in this tread. Luongo is not a problem on this team.
Agreed. But he's also had some of his best games in the playoffs. Game 7 against Chicago in 2011. Games 1, 2, and 5 against Boston. So yes, Lou is not the problem.
But to blame a coach whose GM has
1.Given him a forward crew that includes Schroeder and Raymond as 2L fixtures;
Raymond is probably a 2L winger on most teams when he's playing the way he has this year and before he got jackknifed.
2. Includes Booth, Weise, Ebbet, Tostitos as regulars; and
Weise is turning into a very serviceable 4th liner who has speed and goes to the net. Ebbet is a fill in, the likes of which every team has in the AHL. Sestito is actually not a terrible 4th line option on the wing, he's tough and not a total cluster fuck out there.
3. Got rid of Malhotra, Hodgson; and
I think that if Manny's agent and family were consulted on Gillis' decision, and there was not even so much as the suggestion of a PA grievance.....have to think it was the right call. Vigneault wanted a shutdown center for his 3rd line, CoHo couldn't be that and it wasn't looking like Vigneault was going to try Kesler or Hodgson on the wing. Hodgson was being sheltered and showcased, Gillis got him a shutdown center in Sami Pahlsson. Vigneault then coached the team into a back-ass-wards Presidents Trophy win and a 5 game exit to the LA Kings.....with his shutdown center.
4. Has not dealt with the absense of Kesler; and
What should he have done in the absence of Kesler? Pulled the trigger on a deal that gives up a big asset and brings us a center who then has no place on the team when Kesler does return? Was there anybody to be had via UFA? Couldn't talk to players during the lockout. Could anyone have been signed that would still fit in the lineup and under the salary cap once Kesler was back? Replacing a top flight center is not an easy thing to do without giving up some major assets.
5. Thought getting read of Salo and Erhoff in favour of Garrison and Ballard was a good idea; and
Garrison is a better option than Salo just based on age. Ballard was already under contract. Ehrhoff wanted 10 years and money that he wasn't/isn't worth. He offered Ehrhoff the same deal he gave to Bieksa and Hamhuis, Ehrhoff balked and walked. Ehrhoff at $5M for 10 years would have been as bad as Lou at $5.3 and 12.
6. Though signing Roberto at age 30 to 12 year contract was good idea,
Yeah, that was a bit dumb. Should have been 10 years max, although when that contract was signed player contracts going beyond the age of 40 didn't matter. Now they do.
...is fucking nonsense.
What is nonsense is the things that you seem to think he could have fixed like they were just pick up the phone and make it happen kind of jobs.
GMMG has done almost nothing to improve the team since 2011, when it peaked. AV can only do as much as he can with the players that he has. That includes finishing 1st in the regular season in 2010-2011, 2011-2012 and his team currently sits sixth in the NHL (with J-Scrho, A-Ebbets and MaxLap as three of it four centre). You tell me who is doing the better job?
The problem at center is mostly the result of Kesler being out. As I said before, it's not an easy fix. Lapierre is a decent 4th line center, Vigneault figured it was a better idea to play him on the 3rd line and have Schroeder on the 4th line. This decision was made while the top 2 lines were struggling to put pucks in the net, so AV moves an offensively minded forward with better than average vision and distribution ability down to the 4th line while keeping Lapierre as an anchor between Kassian and Booth who were really skating well and generating offense. Schroeder should have been tried on that line. Any team that loses it's 2nd line center, top 3 PK'ing forward, top 5 in league two-way-skater, and key PP guy, is going to struggle and find it difficult to replace him.
The team is in 6th because of a guy wearing #35. The PP is in the tank, the PK is hurting. Why has the same special teams core suddenly gone from the top of the league to below the middle of the pack? I'd say system and coaching.
Any coach who lets his star players make a million mistakes and never sits them, but nails guys like Ballard, Kassian, and the entire 2nd PP unit, to the bench in favor of guys who aren't even skating.....that coach has his head up his ass. Gillis may not have given AV the dream team, but Vigneault sure doesn't appear to be doing things that properly utilize the guys he does have.