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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:05 am

RoyalDude wrote:I sure hope that Gillis doesn't move the quality asset that Luongo is for just a quick fix veteren rental player. As Gillis thinks about plugging holes NOW he has to mind the future in the meantime as well. I don't think quick fix rental players is what this team needs, we are not cup favorites. Our best players, the Sedins, Burrows and Bieksa are all 30 year olds...we need to get Younger, Bigger and Faster.



He would have already done that if that's what he was going to do. Fact is he will likely have to include a quality young cheap asset ( Hansen, Tanev) along with RL to unload the contract. Clowns like the Pauser can mouth off about wanting this huge return for Luongo but it isn't going to happen. Our other best players are also well under 30 years old like edler, Schneider, Kesler, Hansen. Yes the team needs to get younger but they aren't the old goats you keep chanting about.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:07 am

But Blee Mac, when your top 4 best players - Sedins, Burrows and Bieksa are all over 30 ya got to be concerned.

Trust me, Kesler will be traded...he ain't all that tight with the rest of the room and this city.

I agree, but Gillis sure as hell put himself into a corner by grandstanding "We won't give Luongo away, we would rather keep Luongo here". It would be flakey for him to go against his word to save face to try to stop the bleeding. I love it. Gillis is in the hot seat finally!
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Jovocop » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:23 am

RoyalDude wrote:But Blee Mac, when your top 4 best players - Sedins, Burrows and Bieksa are all over 30 ya got to be concerned.

Trust me, Kesler will be traded...he ain't all that tight with the rest of the room and this city.


I agree, but Gillis sure as hell put himself into a corner by grandstanding "We won't give Luongo away, we would rather keep Luongo here". It would be flakey for him to go against his word to save face to try to stop the bleeding. I love it. Gillis is in the hot seat finally!


RD, you better know what you are talking about there.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:56 am

Jovocop wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:But Blee Mac, when your top 4 best players - Sedins, Burrows and Bieksa are all over 30 ya got to be concerned.

Trust me, Kesler will be traded...he ain't all that tight with the rest of the room and this city.


I agree, but Gillis sure as hell put himself into a corner by grandstanding "We won't give Luongo away, we would rather keep Luongo here". It would be flakey for him to go against his word to save face to try to stop the bleeding. I love it. Gillis is in the hot seat finally!


RD, you better know what you are talking about there.


I've heard some rumblings, how true they are? I don't know.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby dbr » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:57 am

RoyalDude wrote:the bleeding. I love it.


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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Diehard1 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:15 pm

Trust me, Kesler will be traded...he ain't all that tight with the rest of the room and this city.


I've heard some rumblings, how true they are? I don't know.[/quote]

They aren't true at all - I've been out for a few pops with a few of the boys after games on a couple of occasions, and Kes has been there with a few of the guys. He's exactly like you think he would be - cocky, a bit arrogant, and hits on everything that moves - but he gets along with the guys that have been out very well. Not sure where you got this but it isn't true.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:25 pm

Diehard1 wrote:
Trust me, Kesler will be traded...he ain't all that tight with the rest of the room and this city.


They aren't true at all - I've been out for a few pops with a few of the boys after games on a couple of occasions, and Kes has been there with a few of the guys. He's exactly like you think he would be - cocky, a bit arrogant, and hits on everything that moves - but he gets along with the guys that have been out very well. Not sure where you got this but it isn't true.


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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Diehard1 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:53 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:I sure hope that Gillis doesn't move the quality asset that Luongo is for just a quick fix veteren rental player. As Gillis thinks about plugging holes NOW he has to mind the future in the meantime as well. I don't think quick fix rental players is what this team needs, we are not cup favorites. Our best players, the Sedins, Burrows and Bieksa are all 30 year olds...we need to get Younger, Bigger and Faster.



He would have already done that if that's what he was going to do. Fact is he will likely have to include a quality young cheap asset ( Hansen, Tanev) along with RL to unload the contract. Clowns like the Pauser can mouth off about wanting this huge return for Luongo but it isn't going to happen. Our other best players are also well under 30 years old like edler, Schneider, Kesler, Hansen. Yes the team needs to get younger but they aren't the old goats you keep chanting about.


I'm not worried about moving assets for a rental player, after all you always have the option to sign that player afterwards a la Higgins and Lapierre. I'm more worried about this season and the mix up front that doesn't make sense.

If it's me I probably try to move one of Higgins/Raymond at the deadline, assuming Kesler is back of course. There are too many wingers on this team and not enough spots for them all. I'd like to see a real checking line for once, likely with Kes as the center of it, and I like the Booth/Kassian line as long as they have a center who can pass them the puck.

Daniel-Hank-Burr
Higgins/Raymond-Kes-Hansen
Booth- ?????-Kassian
Sestito/Pinizzotto-Lappy/Weise

The 4th line can be moved around and I'm sure Gillis will acquire another player or two there. What really needs to happen is lines with an identity - 1st scoring line, 2nd scoring line, checking line, crash and bang line.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Jovocop » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:55 pm

Steve Montador?? The Hawks put him on waivers this morning. A RH defensman that can actually play. However, he is injury prone. With a $2.75m cap hit, it might be a huge gamble. The Canucks might have to waive or trade Alberts in order to make room for a guy like Montador... :?:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby dbr » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:00 pm

We just don't have the cap space. There's already a crunch coming next year, no sense bringing in a guy who might get bumped in the corner and spend the next couple months afterwards sitting in a darkened room ..
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:23 pm

Diehard1 wrote:
If it's me I probably try to move one of Higgins/Raymond at the deadline,


There are 6 forwards that have been good for us this year and Higgins and Raymond are two of them, the others the Sedins, Burrows and Hansen. And you want to trade one of Higgins and Raymond? IMO, those 6 and Kassian are all I would keep, the rest can all go, IMO.

I've been shitting on Kesler cause Boi RD is miserable and hungover right now but if we could get another top quality centre, big fast and skilled, I like our top 9 in The Sedins, Burrow, Higgins, Hansen, Raymond, Kesler and Kassian and mystery figure.

He probably ain't worth much in a trade but I'd be packaging Schroeder as some team might find value in him. I don't see a fit for him here. If he was like fellow 5'9'er - Brenden Gallagher, yeah I'd keep him, but Schroeder is starting to look like Steve Kariya out there.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Jovocop » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:30 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
Diehard1 wrote:
If it's me I probably try to move one of Higgins/Raymond at the deadline,


There are 6 forwards that have been good for us this year and Higgins and Raymond are two of them, the others the Sedins, Burrows and Hansen. And you want to trade one of Higgins and Raymond? IMO, those 6 and Kassian are all I would keep, the rest can all go, IMO.


When did Higgins come out of your dog house?? I thought he was a useless journeyman from Florida. RD, you are just amazing. You can do a 180 on players in just a week or so...
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Topper » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:30 pm

RoyalDude wrote:HW and I share the same bed and source.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Diehard1 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:11 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
Diehard1 wrote:
If it's me I probably try to move one of Higgins/Raymond at the deadline,


There are 6 forwards that have been good for us this year and Higgins and Raymond are two of them, the others the Sedins, Burrows and Hansen. And you want to trade one of Higgins and Raymond? IMO, those 6 and Kassian are all I would keep, the rest can all go, IMO.

I've been shitting on Kesler cause Boi RD is miserable and hungover right now but if we could get another top quality centre, big fast and skilled, I like our top 9 in The Sedins, Burrow, Higgins, Hansen, Raymond, Kesler and Kassian and mystery figure.

He probably ain't worth much in a trade but I'd be packaging Schroeder as some team might find value in him. I don't see a fit for him here. If he was like fellow 5'9'er - Brenden Gallagher, yeah I'd keep him, but Schroeder is starting to look like Steve Kariya out there.


Where's the space for Higgins and Raymond next year? They'll likely both be gone, and really only one fits into the top 9 when all bodies are healthy - Dan, Hank, Burr, Kes, Hansen, Booth, Kass, 3rd line C to be acquired. If either guy was a C then I'd be all for signing and keeping at least one of them, but wings are redundant here especially with Jensen knocking on the door very shortly. Yes, I would trade one of them for a center in a heartbeat - it makes no sense to have 7 wingers who can all play in the top 6 positions when you are wafer thin at center. These guys are both worth something.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:06 pm

Topper wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:HW and I share the same bed and source.

Remember when HW first showed up at the old CC and claimed to a man.


The HW trans RD pipeline??
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