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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Meds » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:45 pm

Looking at the top 20 salaries in the league.....(not cap hits as the argument here has been expecting a trend towards actual value/salary rather than long contracts with frontloaded salary to drop cap hit towards the end of the contract).

Shea Weber $14M
Brad Richards $12M
Tyler Myers $12M
Zach Parise $12M
Ryan Suter $12M
Ilya Kovalchuk $11M
Vincent Lecavalier $10M
Evgeni Malkin $9M
Alex Ovechkin $9M
Eric Staal $8.5M
Mike Richards $8.4M
Jason Spezza $8M
Duncan Keith $8M
Christian Ehrhoff $8M
Steven Stamkos $8M
Marian Hossa $7.9M
Henrik Zetterberg $7.75M
Rick Nash $7.6M
Sidney Crosby $7.5M

Getzlaf certainy belongs among those names when you consider what he brings to the Ducks. There are names on that list that simply inspire a big ole WTF.

When you look at that list and see the number of names that are on teams that are really no threat whatsoever to win a Cup.....well you have to think that the teams that are going to be at top of the league 4 years from now are not going to be the teams paying out those salaries that are in the top 5 of that list. Not with a salary cap in the $66M range.

I know I would hate to be an owner of one of the NHL franchises that makes money and have to watch teams like Anaheim who lose $10.9M a year (according to Forbes) sign a player like Getzlaf to that kind of money when I would love to have him on my team for the same cash.....then have to cut a cheque to the league for revenue sharing.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:56 pm

Meds wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote:Is he in Crosby/Malkin territory? Is he worth Stamkos money?


Stamkos is 27 and will be 35 when his contract expires.

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Stamkos will be 26 when his contract expires, we’ll see what he gets about 3 years henceforth.


WTF? :look:


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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Meds » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:02 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote:Is he in Crosby/Malkin territory? Is he worth Stamkos money?

Malkin will be 27 when his present contract expires, we’ll see what he gets about 1 year henceforth.


It will be interesting to see where the Penguins are in the next couple years.

Malkin, Letang, Sutter, Kunitz, Orpik, and Niskanen will all need new contracts after next season.

Fleury and Martin have one more year after that.

If Getzlaf just got $8.25M per year then you know that Malkin will be wanting more than that. There is no way Kunitz and Letang don't want big raises after the years they have had in Pittsburgh lately. Fleury will probably want the same, though he's NOT worth it.

I'm betting Fleury is gone, and it will be interesting to see if they are able to come to terms with Malkin. They traded Staal because they knew they couldn't afford him, but with the salary cap dropping, signings like Weber, Suter, Parise, and now Getzlaf, I just have to think that future negotiations with Malkin and his agent just got a lot more difficult.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Strangelove » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:58 pm

Meds wrote:When you look at that list and see the number of names that are on teams that are really no threat whatsoever to win a Cup.....well you have to think that the teams that are going to be at top of the league 4 years from now are not going to be the teams paying out those salaries that are in the top 5 of that list. Not with a salary cap in the $66M range.


You seem to be overlooking the fact that if the salaries of the top players go up

... the salaries of the lesser players go down.

There is only so much room in a team's budget or salary cap amirite?

This is all of course only while the cap remains stagnant.

The salary cap will probably be in the $80mil range "4 years from now".

Meds wrote:I know I would hate to be an owner of one of the NHL franchises that makes money and have to watch teams like Anaheim who lose $10.9M a year (according to Forbes) sign a player like Getzlaf to that kind of money when I would love to have him on my team for the same cash.....then have to cut a cheque to the league for revenue sharing.


If you were an NHL owner you’d understand that revenue-sharing helps ensure a financially healthy league.

If you were an NHL owner you’d understand a financially healthy league guarantees increasing franchise values.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:06 pm

Would any of you trade Ballard and Booth and their contracts for Getzlaf and his new contract?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Hockey Widow » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:51 pm

RoyalDude wrote:Would any of you trade Ballard and Booth and their contracts for Getzlaf and his new contract?

Yes, I would. But I doubt that :mrgreen: Anaheim would.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby okcanuck » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:55 pm

Meds wrote:Looking at the top 20 salaries in the league.....(not cap hits as the argument here has been expecting a trend towards actual value/salary rather than long contracts with frontloaded salary to drop cap hit towards the end of the contract).

Shea Weber $14M
Brad Richards $12M
Tyler Myers $12M
Zach Parise $12M
Ryan Suter $12M
Ilya Kovalchuk $11M
Vincent Lecavalier $10M
Evgeni Malkin $9M
Alex Ovechkin $9M
Eric Staal $8.5M
Mike Richards $8.4M
Jason Spezza $8M
Duncan Keith $8M
Christian Ehrhoff $8M
Steven Stamkos $8M
Marian Hossa $7.9M
Henrik Zetterberg $7.75M
Rick Nash $7.6M
Sidney Crosby $7.5M

Getzlaf certainy belongs among those names when you consider what he brings to the Ducks. There are names on that list that simply inspire a big ole WTF.

When you look at that list and see the number of names that are on teams that are really no threat whatsoever to win a Cup.....well you have to think that the teams that are going to be at top of the league 4 years from now are not going to be the teams paying out those salaries that are in the top 5 of that list. Not with a salary cap in the $66M range.

I know I would hate to be an owner of one of the NHL franchises that makes money and have to watch teams like Anaheim who lose $10.9M a year (according to Forbes) sign a player like Getzlaf to that kind of money when I would love to have him on my team for the same cash.....then have to cut a cheque to the league for revenue sharing.



Wow theres 3 ex-Rockets in that group. I love the Dub.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:09 pm

Ryan O'Reilly with another goal tonight for another Colorado win. Seems to me that the Lanche are playing better with O'Reilly back in town. And who was it here who says he's a bum?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby dbr » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:01 am

According to Bruce Garrioch (yeah I know), the Panthers are ready to start their nearly annual fire sale.

This year's untouchables include Gudbranson, Huberdeau and... drumroll please... Drew Shore. :scowl:

Meanwhile, another dave babych returns target on the Panthers, Shawn Matthias, is "sick of losing."

We'll take him here if he wants to be on a winning team, after all we're sixth in the conference and might even take our division! :thumbs:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby rats19 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:45 am

we need to do something...
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Topper » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:46 am

rats19 wrote:we need to do something...

what do you want to do?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby rats19 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:03 am

Topper wrote:
rats19 wrote:we need to do something...

what do you want to do?

become an elite team again..
trade a goalie
trade booth & ballard (if both can be done) same deal or different deal..dont care

pick up a backup goalie
a centre and a top4 dman

change coaches

be a good start..no?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby dbr » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:20 am

:lol:

Deal three roster players, shitcan the coach, rocket back up the standings... yeah that would be a hell of a start rats. Count me in!
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:58 am

I sure hope that Gillis doesn't move the quality asset that Luongo is for just a quick fix veteren rental player. As Gillis thinks about plugging holes NOW he has to mind the future in the meantime as well. I don't think quick fix rental players is what this team needs, we are not cup favorites. Our best players, the Sedins, Burrows and Bieksa are all 30 year olds...we need to get Younger, Bigger and Faster.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Postby Reefer2 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:02 am

RoyalDude wrote:I sure hope that Gillis doesn't move the quality asset that Luongo is for just a quick fix veteren rental player. As Gillis thinks about plugging holes NOW he has to mind the future in the meantime as well. I don't think quick fix rental players is what this team needs, we are not cup favorites. Our best players, the Sedins, Burrows and Bieksa are all 30 year olds...we need to get Younger, Bigger and Faster.


And have a coach with a plan to intergrate the younger players.
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