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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Diehard1 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:47 am

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Diehard1 wrote:If we've ever seen that a dman needs to come back in this deal I think tonight cemented it. Alberts is a horrid, horrid player - screwed up his coverage almost every time he was n the ice, ran around looking for the hit and got out of position a bunch of times. One game does not make a season I know, but we've seen this before.

Gillis needs to get some defensive depth better than what we've got right now. He also needs a LH center to take draws in the D zone, a guy like Fillpula who seems on his way out in Detroit would fit the bill as he can play both C and LW.



Now I am not an Alberts fan but it was his first game in over 300 days. Thats almost a full year. He was hardly the reason we got blown out tonight. Did he play like shit? Ya, but so too did almost everyone else. The bigger problem is only Tanev can play the right side. It seems our highly paid 4 million + D'man on the left can't switch to save their lives. So I agree we need to change up the defence somehow. But not because of Alberts, he has been fine in the past filling in here and there, gets into trouble when he becomes a regular, playing over his head. But I certainly didn't expect anything from him tonight but trouble given his lack of playing time.


Agreed that it's his first game in a long time - but he's played a lot of games with the Nucks (over 100 regular season games plus playoffs) and he's always looked pretty damn bad. He's just not good in AV's system. My concern is that when the inevitable injuries hit during the playoffs the team will have to turn to Alberts, not something I'm looking forward to.

Agreed also on the lack on balance on the D - in my opinion Gillis has to pick 3 left side guys (likely Edler, Hamhuis, Garrison as he just got here) and 3 right side guys (Bieksa, Tanev, ???) and pair them up. Even though he's been maybe our best dman defensively this year so far, I just don't see Ballard sticking around long term, especially with the salary cap coming down.

I read on a Detroit board that they would do Booth for Filppula - would the Nucks be interested? Gives the team more flexibility and likely a lower salary (though Flip is UFA this year so who knows what he would cost). I would probably do it, though not 100% sure.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:14 pm

All I can say about lou's game last night while in the eye of trying to showcase Lou to the masses is "you picked a fine time to leave us Lou-ille" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: so funny.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Arachnid » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:31 pm

RoyalDude wrote:All I can say about lou's game last night while in the eye of trying to showcase Lou to the masses is "you picked a fine time to leave us Lou-ille" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: so funny.


Ummmm excuse me but he had a shut out the game before for your Vancouver Canucks (not that I watched 8-) ).

Try again (or you will miss the bandwagon completely).
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:53 pm

Arachnid wrote:Ummmm excuse me but he had a shut out the game before for your Vancouver Canucks (not that I watched 8-) ).

Try again (or you will miss the bandwagon completely).


According to a lot of amigo's out there Archnaphobe, you are only as good as your last game. Don't matter if he set the world on fire the previous game in Tennessee. The pundits have shortened memories.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Uncle dans leg » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:24 pm

RoyalDude wrote:The pundits have shortened memories

whereas you only suffer from short term memory loss?
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Aaronp18 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:49 pm

So I was perusing NHL.com and the standings and noticed Florida has a league worst 3.63 GA/G.

Luongo in his sleep could drop that a goal per game.

Come on FLA, just bite the damn bullet!
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Diehard1 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:14 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:So I was perusing NHL.com and the standings and noticed Florida has a league worst 3.63 GA/G.

Luongo in his sleep could drop that a goal per game.

Come on FLA, just bite the damn bullet!


Supposedly they can't afford him, so are trying to make Gillis take back a bad contract. I'm sure he would have done it under the old system, but in the new system you are limited to how much you can bury in the minors. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:24 pm

Diehard1 wrote:
Aaronp18 wrote:So I was perusing NHL.com and the standings and noticed Florida has a league worst 3.63 GA/G.

Luongo in his sleep could drop that a goal per game.

Come on FLA, just bite the damn bullet!


Supposedly they can't afford him, so are trying to make Gillis take back a bad contract. I'm sure he would have done it under the old system, but in the new system you are limited to how much you can bury in the minors. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.


Panthers ownership went on record months ago in that they are willing to fork over the doh for Lou.

Nah, I think it's the package GMMG wants in return that is holding things up.

As for taking back a bad contract, don't forget the compliance buyout is there.

C'mon Gillis, spend Aquaman's money to get this deal done!
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Diehard1 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:24 pm

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Diehard1 wrote:
Aaronp18 wrote:So I was perusing NHL.com and the standings and noticed Florida has a league worst 3.63 GA/G.

Luongo in his sleep could drop that a goal per game.

Come on FLA, just bite the damn bullet!


Supposedly they can't afford him, so are trying to make Gillis take back a bad contract. I'm sure he would have done it under the old system, but in the new system you are limited to how much you can bury in the minors. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.


Panthers ownership went on record months ago in that they are willing to fork over the doh for Lou.

Nah, I think it's the package GMMG wants in return that is holding things up.

As for taking back a bad contract, don't forget the compliance buyout is there.

C'mon Gillis, spend Aquaman's money to get this deal done!


Good point, forgot about the buyout option. Florida's goalies are sucking again tonight - seems par for the course for them.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby RoyalDude » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:42 pm

Diehard1 wrote:
Good point, forgot about the buyout option. Florida's goalies are sucking again tonight - seems par for the course for them.


Probably the worst team in the league right now and in the Jones, McKinnon, Drouin, that Russian, Barkov, Lindholm, Monahan, Nurse running. Why would they break up a youth movement for an old man in Luongo? The Panthers don't have money according to Ray Ferraro, so not so sure why they would abandon youth for old man Lou and a contract that apparently is too rich for their blood. It's not a good marriage IMO.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Aaronp18 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:27 pm

Isn't it within the new CBA rules to keep some of a players salary when moved?

The Canucks can always eat $1M of Luos salary until it drops to $3.7M to help. But I think it should come at a greater cost to FLA though, a higher draft pick or better prospect.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Meds » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:07 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
Diehard1 wrote:
Good point, forgot about the buyout option. Florida's goalies are sucking again tonight - seems par for the course for them.


Probably the worst team in the league right now and in the Jones, McKinnon, Drouin, that Russian, Barkov, Lindholm, Monahan, Nurse running. Why would they break up a youth movement for an old man in Luongo? The Panthers don't have money according to Ray Ferraro, so not so sure why they would abandon youth for old man Lou and a contract that apparently is too rich for their blood. It's not a good marriage IMO.


Just curious here RD, since you brought them up, what will you say about GMMG if he holds onto Lou and them flips him for a top 3 pick at the draft?

I would LOVE to see Jonathan Drouin donning a Canucks Jersey and hat while standing next to Aquaman and MG on draft day.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:18 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:Isn't it within the new CBA rules to keep some of a players salary when moved?

The Canucks can always eat $1M of Luos salary until it drops to $3.7M to help. But I think it should come at a greater cost to FLA though, a higher draft pick or better prospect.


It's like I say, if Canucks need to help Florida out financially in this trade, they just take a bad contract back.

Then compliance buyout in the summer.

BOOM

Retaining some of the salary would negatively affect the cap-room dig? :mex:
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby RoyalDude » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:19 pm

Meds wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
Diehard1 wrote:
Good point, forgot about the buyout option. Florida's goalies are sucking again tonight - seems par for the course for them.


Probably the worst team in the league right now and in the Jones, McKinnon, Drouin, that Russian, Barkov, Lindholm, Monahan, Nurse running. Why would they break up a youth movement for an old man in Luongo? The Panthers don't have money according to Ray Ferraro, so not so sure why they would abandon youth for old man Lou and a contract that apparently is too rich for their blood. It's not a good marriage IMO.


Just curious here RD, since you brought them up, what will you say about GMMG if he holds onto Lou and them flips him for a top 3 pick at the draft?

I would LOVE to see Jonathan Drouin donning a Canucks Jersey and hat while standing next to Aquaman and MG on draft day.


Well, I think Drouin has a very good chance of going 1st overall but either or of Jones, Drouin, McKinnon...I'd be real happy with. The Russian forward, who is apparently the best forward of the draft, I have no interest in cause well he is Russian. Barkov, Nurse, Monahan, Lindholm I'd be happy with as well. I just don't see a team who has a pick anywhere in the top 8 giving us that pick for Roberto Luongo. I'd be all teeth if we could but just don't see it happening.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby dhabums » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:26 pm

Meds wrote:Just curious here RD, since you brought them up, what will you say about GMMG if he holds onto Lou and them flips him for a top 3 pick at the draft?

I would LOVE to see Jonathan Drouin donning a Canucks Jersey and hat while standing next to Aquaman and MG on draft day.


I'd say the exact same thing if MG cured cancer this summer which is absolutely nothing because neither will ever happen. No team is going to pay premium for Lu and fans need to to stop thinking it's going to happen.

Maybe MG turns Schneider+ into a top 3 but that + is a 1st and another player.
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