I guess its safe to assume you're allowed to dream but nobody else is?RoyalDude wrote: Care to dream?
Just so we're all clear on this schtick of yours.
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I guess its safe to assume you're allowed to dream but nobody else is?RoyalDude wrote: Care to dream?
Do you like repeating after me, schmuck?ukcanuck wrote: Western conference rivals, Luongo wont waive his NTC,
roll your eyes again...that was good.Aaronp18 wrote:I guess its safe to assume you're allowed to dream but nobody else is?RoyalDude wrote: Care to dream?
Just so we're all clear on this schtick of yours.
I prefer dreams to nightmares...RoyalDude wrote: Care to dream?
Outside of Washington, there really isn't a good fit for a team to take Lou in the East, and I don't think McPhee is all that interested in Luongo. Nonis will not break the bank for Lou. Seems to be better trading partners in the western conference, but yeah, that ain't happening either.Island Nucklehead wrote:I prefer dreams to nightmares...RoyalDude wrote: Care to dream?
I'm sure Lou would love to go to a team with a chance to win (ie: Chicago rumours). But why the hell would we help him do that, when it could come at our expense in round 2 or 3 (or 1?) of the playoffs? If he's going to St Louis, I'll take Tarasenko. If he's going to Chicago I'll take Marian Hossa+
If it's not a deal blowing MG out of the water, he shouldn't deal Luongo to a team that could end his employment.
I agree. A team in the West will pay more for him. But Luongo is the best player being traded, so I'd rather buy whatever we get back a year or two to develop. Facing Lou in the playoffs this year scares the shit out of me. I'd rather keep both of them with the cap being high this year.RoyalDude wrote: Outside of Washington, there really isn't a good fit for a team to take Lou in the East, and I don't think McPhee is all that interested in Luongo. Nonis will not break the bank for Lou. Seems to be better trading partners in the western conference, but yeah, that ain't happening either.
Because St. Loo is for sale and the team is close to being bankrupt? No chance he goes to St. Loo.RoyalDude wrote:The Blues continue to struggle in the nets, lost 4-1 tonight. Elliott continues to crap the bed. They have the 2nd worst GA in the Western Conference. They are one of those team where an injection of quality goaltending could make them a Stanley Cup contender. I see a good fit, that is, if they were in the Eastern Conference. But there were rumors earlier of a possible Chicago deal, so why can't a Lou to St Lou deal be possible?
Um, both Halak and Elliotts contracts come to an end after the 2013-2014 season. Halak will make 4.5 million this year and next year (last year of contract) with a cap hit of 3,750,000 million. Elliott will make 1.9 million this year and next year (last year of contract) with a cap hit of 1,800,000 million. They package Halak as part of a Lou trade, Elliott is gone after next year, just how the fuck is Luongo's $6.7 million (5.3 million cap hit) so terribly hard for the Blues to deal with after Elliott and Halak are out of the picture? Holy c(r)ow batman! Both Halak's and Elliotts contracts amount to the same as Luongo. Throw a cheapo back up behind Lou in St Lou, it becomes pretty much a hair bit more in price than the combo of Halak and Elliott. Totally do-able, ya schnauzer.Diehard1 wrote:Because St. Loo is for sale and the team is close to being bankrupt? No chance he goes to St. Loo.RoyalDude wrote:The Blues continue to struggle in the nets, lost 4-1 tonight. Elliott continues to crap the bed. They have the 2nd worst GA in the Western Conference. They are one of those team where an injection of quality goaltending could make them a Stanley Cup contender. I see a good fit, that is, if they were in the Eastern Conference. But there were rumors earlier of a possible Chicago deal, so why can't a Lou to St Lou deal be possible?
How's about this RD.....RoyalDude wrote: Um, both Halak and Elliotts contracts come to an end after the 2013-2014 season. Halak will make 4.5 million this year and next year (last year of contract) with a cap hit of 3,750,000 million. Elliott will make 1.9 million this year and next year (last year of contract) with a cap hit of 1,800,000 million. They package Halak as part of a Lou trade, Elliott is gone after next year, just how the fuck is Luongo's $6.7 million (5.3 million cap hit) so terribly hard for the Blues to deal with after Elliott and Halak are out of the picture? Holy c(r)ow batman! Both Halak's and Elliotts contracts amount to the same as Luongo. Throw a cheapo back up behind Lou in St Lou, it becomes pretty much a hair bit more in price than the combo of Halak and Elliott. Totally do-able, ya schnauzer.
Even if they decide to keep Elliott as a back up in which everybody knows they won't cause he sucks, that is unless he takes a serious hair cut like he should. Luongo's contract is only 2 million more than Halak's? Is that breaking the fucking bank? Uh, no. For only 2 million they get a seriously good upgrade in nets. How is that not good business?
Andy MacDonald makes $4.7 million, he is off the books next year as he is a UFA this summer. His replacements? Rookies - Schwartz and/or Rattie.
Diehard, do your fucking homework before ya pms on me
You said it yourself - Halak and Elliott are up soon. Lu has 9.5 years and over $40 million left on his deal. The Blues can sign a couple of goalies for a couple of million dollars or somewhere around $15 or $20 million over the next 9 years, or they can pay Lu over $40 million for the same term. I know you live in capland where nothing matters but cap hit, but businesses actually care about dollars spent, not cap hit.RoyalDude wrote:Um, both Halak and Elliotts contracts come to an end after the 2013-2014 season. Halak will make 4.5 million this year and next year (last year of contract) with a cap hit of 3,750,000 million. Elliott will make 1.9 million this year and next year (last year of contract) with a cap hit of 1,800,000 million. They package Halak as part of a Lou trade, Elliott is gone after next year, just how the fuck is Luongo's $6.7 million (5.3 million cap hit) so terribly hard for the Blues to deal with after Elliott and Halak are out of the picture? Holy c(r)ow batman! Both Halak's and Elliotts contracts amount to the same as Luongo. Throw a cheapo back up behind Lou in St Lou, it becomes pretty much a hair bit more in price than the combo of Halak and Elliott. Totally do-able, ya schnauzer.Diehard1 wrote:Because St. Loo is for sale and the team is close to being bankrupt? No chance he goes to St. Loo.RoyalDude wrote:The Blues continue to struggle in the nets, lost 4-1 tonight. Elliott continues to crap the bed. They have the 2nd worst GA in the Western Conference. They are one of those team where an injection of quality goaltending could make them a Stanley Cup contender. I see a good fit, that is, if they were in the Eastern Conference. But there were rumors earlier of a possible Chicago deal, so why can't a Lou to St Lou deal be possible?
Even if they decide to keep Elliott as a back up in which everybody knows they won't cause he sucks, that is unless he takes a serious hair cut like he should. Luongo's contract is only 2 million more than Halak's? Is that breaking the fucking bank? Uh, no. For only 2 million they get a seriously good upgrade in nets. How is that not good business?
Andy MacDonald makes $4.7 million, he is off the books next year as he is a UFA this summer. His replacements? Rookies - Schwartz and/or Rattie.
Diehard, do your fucking homework before ya pms on me
Yep, in the real world dollars matters. In RD's world it doesn't. Must be nice to have the kind of money he has.JelloPuddingPop wrote:I think his point was that Halak is due 8.75 millon and Lou is due ~ 47 million (I know this year is pro-rated for both, but for argument's sake).
That is large amount of dollar value to commit for an organization that is not on the "making money" list. They got rid of a great hockey mind in Davidson, just to save a bit. The likelihood of taking on this type of contract is slim to none.
This is a stupid argument cause Lou ain't ever gonna be a Blue NOT cause the Blues may or may not be able to afford him but because the Blues are in the Western Conf. and Lou would not waive to go there, that being said you do realize that even after you, I, Luongo, Elliott and Halak have long parted this earth that the Blues will still need a goalie? And that no. 1 goalies are expensive, I believe that over half the no. 1 starters in the league make $4 million and up. The rest are your Dubnyks, Lindbacks, Reimers, Holtby's blah, blah, blah and you do realize that Luongo only makes roughly a little more than $2million more than Halak, WOW! Breaking the fucking bank here! And that Elliott is consdered and expensive back up. You do realize that Halak is an easy trade cause his contract is over after the 2013/14 season. What GM's call a workable contract. You do realize that Andy '35 Year Old' McDonald who makes 4.7 million is a UFA at the end of this season, can you say "Hello Ty Rattie" and your inexpensive contract. Be prepared to see a lot of Ty Ratties in the league next year, getting the fast track to the NHL.Diehard1 wrote:
You said it yourself - Halak and Elliott are up soon. Lu has 9.5 years and over $40 million left on his deal. The Blues can sign a couple of goalies for a couple of million dollars or somewhere around $15 or $20 million over the next 9 years, or they can pay Lu over $40 million for the same term. I know you live in capland where nothing matters but cap hit, but businesses actually care about dollars spent, not cap hit.
I understand that business is not your strong suit, but for a team that is trying to sell itself the last thing they want is to lose more money, be that $2 million, $5 million or $10 million a season. It's not happening.