Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

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Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

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Assuming NHL'ers are invited to next year's Olympics (spoiler: they will be, fuckwit), who makes the cut for the good guys? Now obviously a lot will change in the next calendar year, but let's see which players the best Canucks board on the internet thinks will be clad in the hallowed red-and-white next winter.

Sure-fire forwards:

Crosby
Stamkos
Giroux
Toews


Probable forwards:

Nash
Marleau
Thornton
St. Louis


Sure-fire defencemen:

Weber
Letang
Doughty
Keith


Probable defencemen:

???

Sure-fire goaltenders:

Price

Probable goaltenders:

???

With so many good young players coming up it's really hard to know where things will stand by next December/January. The Americans will have Quick in net and the Russians will have the refs on their side, not to mention a front four composed of Malkin, Ovechkin, Datsyuk and Kovalchuck. Sweden will be a pack of bedwetting pansies as usual, who gives a fuck what they put together.

Could Eberle and RNH be ready by then? Tavares? Make your picks and look like geniuses, folks.
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I suppose you'd have to bring back Perry and Eric Staal up front. Mike Richards as a checker?

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It will happen rummy....lol
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Rumsfeld wrote:I suppose you'd have to bring back Perry and Eric Staal up front. Mike Richards as a checker?

Awesome contributions so far BTW guys. :mad:
Goal:
Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo
Marc-Andre Fleury

Defense:
Scott Niedermayer (C)
Chris Pronger (A)

Dan Boyle
Shea Weber
Duncan Keith
Brent Seabrook
Drew Doughty

Forward:
Sidney Crosby (A)
Jarome Iginla (A)
Rick Nash
Dany Heatley
Ryan Getzlaf
Patrice Bergeron
Brendan Morrow
Patrick Marleau
Joe Thornton
Mike Richards
Jonathon Toews
Eric Staal
Corey Perry

it might be easier to pick out who isnt or maybe should be back?
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You've got to think Alex Pietrangelo gets a good long look.

As for other blueliners, depending on what he does this year and next fall a guy like PK Subban might seem like an interesting choice to play on the big ice surface.

Kevin Bieksa and Dan Hamhuis were 7th and 12th in scoring among Canadian defensemen last year.. :look:

Among forwards I could see guys like Giroux and Eberle getting serious consideration, although I'm sure some part of that would involve how well they could be expected to fill non-scoring roles.
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ukcanuck wrote:
Rumsfeld wrote:I suppose you'd have to bring back Perry and Eric Staal up front. Mike Richards as a checker?

Awesome contributions so far BTW guys. :mad:
Goal:
Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo
Marc-Andre Fleury

Defense:
Scott Niedermayer (C)
Chris Pronger (A)

Dan Boyle
Shea Weber
Duncan Keith
Brent Seabrook
Drew Doughty

Forward:
Sidney Crosby (A)
Jarome Iginla (A)
Rick Nash
Dany Heatley
Ryan Getzlaf
Patrice Bergeron
Brendan Morrow
Patrick Marleau
Joe Thornton
Mike Richards
Jonathon Toews
Eric Staal
Corey Perry

it might be easier to pick out who isnt or maybe should be back?
Doubt Getzlaf and Bergeron are back. Boyle is still a great offensive defenseman but I'd go with a younger guy.
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dbr wrote:You've got to think Alex Pietrangelo gets a good long look.

As for other blueliners, depending on what he does this year and next fall a guy like PK Subban might seem like an interesting choice to play on the big ice surface.

Kevin Bieksa and Dan Hamhuis were 7th and 12th in scoring among Canadian defensemen last year.. :look:

Among forwards I could see guys like Giroux and Eberle getting serious consideration, although I'm sure some part of that would involve how well they could be expected to fill non-scoring roles.
You think Giroux MIGHT make it Dave? Dude, the guy is a lock, he's probably the third most talented forward in Canada right now (Crosby and Stamkos 1 and 2).

Totally agree about Pietrangelo. Subban is too wild to be trusted in a one-game elimination methinks.
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You know I thought he was off to a much worse start this year but yeah, assuming he returns to form and puts up another great season he probably has a lock on one of those top two lines (meaning nobody's going to be tempted to cut him for a Patrice Bergeron, Mike Richards type).
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Because these international tournaments are so short, getting players who already have chemistry together already is extremely beneficial. Like Stamkos/StLouis, Getzlaf/Perry, Keith/Seabrook

NASH - CROSBY - GIROUX
E STAAL - STAMKOS - ST LOUIS (OR EBERLE if JE is playing on fire next season)
TOEWS - GETZLAF - PERRY (Chose Getzlaf because Canada needs at least one big bruiser with skill up front+can play well with Perry)
M RICHARDS - BERGERON - TAVARES
SPEZZA (Tonnes of great international experience, good size/skating ability, superstar skills)

Potential:
LECAVALIER, SEGUIN, THORNTON, MARLEAU, J STAAL, SKINNER, CONACHER, COUTURE, B RICHARDS, HALL, NUGENT-HOPKINS, HENRIQUE, SHARP, LUCIC, E KANE, HEATLEY, NEAL, DUCHESNE, ZAJAC, J CARTER, CLARKSON

DOUGHTY - WEBER
KEITH - SEABROOK
LETANG - PIETRANGELO
M STAAL

Potential:
PK SUBBAN, BOYLE, GREEN, MYERS

LUONGO
PRICE
WARD

Potential:
FLEURY
ELLIOTT
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Anyone catch the Leaf/Habs After Forty segment on HNIC last night?

Seems Ron MacLean is trying to make amends with we Canuckers!

They were talking about who should make the cut for a few minutes. Near the end Rotten Ronny says "You know, the Canucks don't get respect. They have left-hand and right-hand guys Hamhuis and Bieksa on defense.... and a great two-way forward in Alexandre Burrows who should get consideration."

:shock:

The other panel members were trying to look at him as though he's NOT crazy.... without success. They didn't comment. You just knew they felt sorry for him. It was like watching a man who had dug a huge hole for himself desperately trying to scramble out... but failing.

Poor fucker must've read Dave's post above and taken it seriously...

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Rumsfeld wrote: Sweden will be a pack of bedwetting pansies as usual, who gives a fuck what they put together.
There were many that thought once Sweden's "golden generation" (Sundin, Lidström, Forsberg, Alfredsson...) retired, we'd have a hard time finding some one to fill their skates. But look around the NHL now, and it's an embarassment of riches! Last year the Vezina went to Lundqvist, the Norris to Karlsson and the Calder to Landeskog. Colorado, Detroit, Ottawa and Vancouver all have Swedish captains. Here's my suggestion to who may get the nod:

Forwards:
Daniel Sedin -  Henrik Sedin - Viktor Stålberg
Henrik Zetterberg - Nicklas Bäckström - Johan Franzén
Loui Eriksson - Patrik Berglund -  Daniel Alfredsson
Gabriel Landeskog -  Alex Steen - Jakob  Silfverberg
(  Zibanejad, Backlund, Hörnqvist )

Not sure Alfredsson will still be around, but my bet is that he will.

Defence:
Niklas Kronwall (L) - Erik Karlsson (R)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson (L) - Tobias Enström (L)
Alexander Edler (L) - Viktor Hedman (L)
Douglas Murray (L) - Adam Larsson (R)
( Oduya, Ericsson, Hjalmarsson )

A lack of righties, which is why I pick Larsson over eg Hjalmarsson or Ericsson.
Murray is not as skilled as some of the others, but we may need him when playing the North American teams.
Helps them remember to play by the code.

Goalies:
Henrik Lundqvist
Victor Fasth
Jonas Lehner
(Lindbäck, Hedberg)

Lindbäck and Hedberg carry a bigger load and may have more experience, but Fasth and Lehner have better stats and will want to prove themselves. Lundqvist is of course the unquestionable starter.

Not so bad, imho. Prepare yourselves for getting your ass handed to you by a pack of bedwetting pansies! :drink:
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Sure-fire forwards:

Crosby
Stamkos
Giroux
Toews

Probable forwards:

Nash
Marleau
Thornton
St. Louis
Perry
Tavares
Staal
Bergeron

Possibilities
Hall




Sure-fire defencemen:

Weber
Letang
Doughty
Keith
Seabrook
Probable defencemen:

???

Sure-fire goaltenders:

Price

Probable goaltenders:

Luongo
Brodeur
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Per wrote:Forwards:
Daniel Sedin -  Henrik Sedin - Viktor Stålberg
Henrik Zetterberg - Nicklas Bäckström - Johan Franzén
Loui Eriksson - Patrik Berglund -  Daniel Alfredsson
Gabriel Landeskog -  Alex Steen - Jakob  Silfverberg
(  Zibanejad, Backlund, Hörnqvist )

Not sure Alfredsson will still be around, but my bet is that he will.

Defence:
Niklas Kronwall (L) - Erik Karlsson (R)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson (L) - Tobias Enström (L)
Alexander Edler (L) - Viktor Hedman (L)
Douglas Murray (L) - Adam Larsson (R)
( Oduya, Ericsson, Hjalmarsson )

A lack of righties, which is why I pick Larsson over eg Hjalmarsson or Ericsson.
Murray is not as skilled as some of the others, but we may need him when playing the North American teams.
Helps them remember to play by the code.

Goalies:
Henrik Lundqvist
Victor Fasth
Jonas Lehner
(Lindbäck, Hedberg)

Not so bad, imho. Prepare yourselves for getting your ass handed to you by a pack of bedwetting pansies! :drink:
Umm, are you really incapable of seeeing how shitty that team is compared to this hypothetical one?

Giroux Crosby Nash
Benn St.Louis Stamkos
Perry Getzlaf E.Stall
Bergeron Toews Tavares -- M.Richards Hall Eberle Thornton Marleau Duchene, etc...

Weber Letang
Keith Doughty
Pietrangelo Subban Seabrook

Price
Ward

Seriously, half your team wouldn't even be considered for the Red and White if they'd been born here instead of your frozen commie shithole.

The again, you don't actually watch NHL games, so I guess you think guys like Alfredsson and Steen and Murray are world class players.

LOL @ your third and fourth lines, there are NHL teams with better depth than that. :lol: The 2010 Blackhawks would be unimpressed.

The forwards that will be left off the Canadian roster would probably comprise a group that would hand you your yellow little asses. Lundquist is your only hope and when Crosby is feeding Stamkos on our first unit PP it won't matter how good your incredibly gay goalie is.

As an aside, are you going to continue pretending you're a Canucks fan when the Sedins retire? Please don't. :)
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Rumsfeld wrote:
Per wrote: Not so bad, imho. Prepare yourselves for getting your ass handed to you by a pack of bedwetting pansies! :drink:
Umm, are you really incapable of seeeing how shitty that team is compared to this hypothetical one?
:lol:

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Rumsfeld wrote:As an aside, are you going to continue pretending you're a Canucks fan when the Sedins retire? Please don't. :)
The Sedins didn't make me a Canucks fan. Patrik Sundström did, and yeah, I've stayed with this team after he retired.

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