2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by Brick Tamland » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:36 am

I watched most of it and as far as shinny goes it was pretty up tempo. The 2 lines that stood out were the Sedins and the Raymond line. I don't think that Raymond fell down much if at all, so that's a good sign. His lowlight was when he led a pretty promising 3 on 1 and then didn't get a pass off. Schroeder actually won a few draws, mde some nice plays and didn't look out of place. Kassian looked OK but he made some pretty bad passes. There is no denying that there was some chemistry there though. I would at least give them a try together for a few shifts to see what happens, albeit on a very short leash.

On Raymonds second goal it was actually Hansen that set him up. The defense let him walk all the way in to the middle of the circles and take a slap shot, I can't remember who it was though.

The shoot out was so so. Schneider looked pretty good Lou did not.

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by herb » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:06 am

Nine players from camp reassigned this morning as expected. Those were.
- Connauton
- Corrado
- Archibald
- Rodin
- Sweatt
- Gordon
- Joslin
- Andersson
- Cannata

One more cut to go. Will it be Schroeder, Ebbett, Vandermeer, Volpatti or Barker? Speculation is that it would be Schroeder, but why wouldn't they have sent him down with the rest of the Chicago guys? Chicago plays tonight, I believe. I'm thinking it will be a defenceman, hopefully Barker. They can't really be planning on carrying 9 defencemen, can they? Maybe somebody will be getting the waive.

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by dbr » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:12 am

I wouldn't be too surprised if they are looking at whether anyone around the league is likely to claim one of their waiver eligible guys.

If they can't waive on of those players with confidence my guess is that they assign Schroeder with plans to recall him as soon as one of Volpatti, Vandermeer or Barker shows them something they don't like (shouldn't take long).

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by ukcanuck » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:17 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:Apparently CC favorite Mason (2.2 million dollar salary, half of David Booths) Raymond scored all 3 goals in a 3-0 win by the Schneider team. Apparently he's flying out there. Any more details?
In a game of shinny with no fear of being bumped May Ray lights it up. As a Canucks fan I would like to see the skinny rat from Cochrane produce. We 'll see....
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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by herb » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:38 am

dbr wrote:I wouldn't be too surprised if they are looking at whether anyone around the league is likely to claim one of their waiver eligible guys.
That would make sense.

I think Vandermeer stays due to his ability to play forward and provide a bit of toughness.

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by dbr » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:46 am

Yeah unless he is truly terrible I would expect him to have an advantage over both Volpatti and Barker in that he can play either position.

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by Vader » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:29 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
In a game of shinny with no fear of being bumped May Ray lights it up. As a Canucks fan I would like to see the skinny rat from Cochrane produce. We 'll see....
I took my kid to the game (if you really want to call it that)

Actually, Alberts laid a pretty good hit out on Raymond early in the game and to Raymonds credit he gave Alberts a shot back...but um yeah...it was basically a no-contact game and Raymond had a lot or room out there.

Alberts was pretty physical out there in general, really the only guy that was. He played like a guy on the bubble.

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by Benjo » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:35 pm

Vader wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
In a game of shinny with no fear of being bumped May Ray lights it up. As a Canucks fan I would like to see the skinny rat from Cochrane produce. We 'll see....
I took my kid to the game (if you really want to call it that)

Actually, Alberts laid a pretty good hit out on Raymond early in the game and to Raymonds credit he gave Alberts a shot back...but um yeah...it was basically a no-contact game and Raymond had a lot or room out there.

Alberts was pretty physical out there in general, really the only guy that was. He played like a guy on the bubble.
I think Raymond was a little pissed because it was from behind and he's thenthitive about his back.

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by SKYO » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:43 pm

herb wrote:Nine players from camp reassigned this morning as expected. Those were.
- Connauton
- Corrado
- Archibald
- Rodin
- Sweatt
- Gordon
- Joslin
- Andersson
- Cannata

One more cut to go. Will it be Schroeder, Ebbett, Vandermeer, Volpatti or Barker? Speculation is that it would be Schroeder, but why wouldn't they have sent him down with the rest of the Chicago guys? Chicago plays tonight, I believe. I'm thinking it will be a defenceman, hopefully Barker. They can't really be planning on carrying 9 defencemen, can they? Maybe somebody will be getting the waive.
Yup, it's either Schroeder or one of Barker/Vandermeer imho.
So that would leave the Canucks with, by my count, twenty-four players still on Vancouver's roster: nine defenseman, thirteen forwards and two goaltenders.

So who will the last cut be? Barring a major surprise, it would appear to me that the remaining candidates to be waived by end of day Friday would be: either one of Jordan Schroeder or Andrew Ebbet, or alternatively one of the depth defensemen in Cam Barker or Jim Vandermeer.
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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by Aaronp18 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:51 pm

So we have (tentatively):

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Raymond-Schroeder-Kassian
Higgins-Lapierre-Hansen
Volpatti-Malhotra-Weise
Ebbett

Bieksa-Hamhuis
Garrison-Edler
Ballard-Tanev
Vandermeer
Alberts

Schneider
Luongo

I think Barker gets sent down.

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by Benjo » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:52 pm

edit.

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by herb » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:54 pm

I believe Ebbett is subject to waivers, so I doubt it'd be him. We'd hate to lose him for nothing at this point given the injuries up front.

It's either Schroeder, Vandermeer or Barker. I think it's Barker. By all accounts Schroeder has performed well.

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by Aaronp18 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:57 pm

Aaronp18 wrote: Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Raymond-Schroeder-Kassian
Higgins-Lapierre-Hansen
Volpatti-Malhotra-Weise
Ebbett
Though I wouldn`t mind seeing.

Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Higgins-Lapierre-Burrows
Raymond-Schroeder-Hansen
Volpatti-Malhotra-Weise
Ebbett

Just think the `2nd` line here can be more responsible defensively and eat up more icetime. That way `lil Schroeder`s line would likely see the 3rd pairing.

Edit: Kassian is not quite there to hold down two forward spots yet!!
Last edited by Aaronp18 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by tantalum » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:58 pm

I don't believe that anyone subject to waivers can be sent down at this time. It takes 24 hours for them to clear and rosters have to be set today. At least that was the prevailing view yesterday when there was a waiver blitz.

Schroeder will likely be sent down unless Gillis moves a body via trade in the next few hours. Gillis, however, talked highly of Schroeder and they want to give him a chance. I have a feeling we will see Schroeder sent down and one of the other guys waived (at that point it is unlikely they'd get plucked off of waivers). 24 hours later the waiver wire guy gets demoted and Schroeder gets called up.

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Re: 2013 Canucks Short Preseason/Training Camp

Post by herb » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:01 pm

Aaronp18 wrote: Though I wouldn`t mind seeing.

Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Higgins-Lapierre-Burrows
Raymond-Schroeder-Kassian
Volpatti-Malhotra-Weise
Ebbett
That's a lot of ice time for a rookie!

Thanks for the insight Tant.

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