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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:56 pm

SKYO wrote:
Strangelove wrote:Would you guys settle for this: Lu Wongo for Kadri + Kulemin + 2nd?


I have a feeling MG would prefer Frattin, relatively unknown outside the T.O. just got into the game after playing college in the States, plays big/strong/industrious, has a good shot + wheels and will likely have a breakout season soon if put in the right situation.

Kadri+Frattin+Reimer?


I don't think MG would prefer Frattin to Kulemin.

I certainly wouldn't.

If it were Kadri + Frattin, I'd want a 1st-round-pick as well.

I'd rather have Kulemin because he has proven he can pass for a 2nd-liner.

I wouldn't touch Reimer with a 10-foot pole.

SKYO wrote:Not to mention they have a coupla decent center rentals like the tired name Bozak or Lombardi who would be the perfect 3rd line center on any contending team, if healthy.


I don't like Lombardi (or Connolly).

I suppose I could settle for Bozak, but I'd prefer Kulemin.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:57 pm

Topper wrote:Kadri has all the appeal Kyle Wellwood when he was a leaf.


:look:

Well I wouldn't know.....
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby ukcanuck » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:59 pm

Gardiner or no one from the leafs at this time, we need more from luongo than players the leafs can do without...
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Boston Canucker » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:47 pm

I'd prefer Luongo not get traded to Toronto for two reasons 1) I just don't want to see him in a Leafs uni and 2) Leafs' prospects are the most overhyped (esp by the Toronto air media) in the NHL. Kadri may turn out to be a good forward, but the attention they give him is out of proportion. Every Leafs decent young guy is turned into an untouchable...
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby dbr » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:55 pm

Drew Shore has been putting up 0.75 PPG in the AHL as a first year pro, that is pretty impressive.

I think if we could get Shore and Florida's first round pick for Luongo - plus Shawn Matthias, just for the hell of it - that would be a pretty damned satisfactory return.

Not much in the way of immediate help but if Shore is as advertised then we would almost certainly graduate one center (if not two - Schroeder) to the big club next year, plus Matthias can play wing or center. That would be four (or five) centers on the roster without re-signing a single player, and three (or four) of them with the skill to play a top six role.

Adding Shore (6'3) and Matthias (6'4 / 220) would give the Canucks a group of young forwards (with Kassian at 6'3 / 214 and Jensen at 6'3 / 186) that fit Gillis "bigger, faster, younger" mantra and all have the ability to be top nine players in my opinion.

An extra first round pick (or maybe a second rounder plus a third rounder) would allow the team to either take riskier picks to add players with elite potential to the organization, or to move up and grab one of the top prospects in the draft.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:02 pm

dbr wrote:I think if we could get Shore and Florida's first round pick for Luongo - plus Shawn Matthias, just for the hell of it - that would be a pretty damned satisfactory return.


I would do that deal in a heartbeat Dave.

Might hafta throw in a 2nd/3rd though?
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Jovocop » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:03 pm

dbr wrote:Adding Shore (6'3) and Matthias (6'4 / 220) would give the Canucks a group of young forwards (with Kassian at 6'3 / 214 and Jensen at 6'3 / 186) that fit Gillis "bigger, faster, younger" mantra and all have the ability to be top nine players in my opinion.


You forgot about Brendan Gaunce (6'2 / 215).
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Canuck-One » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:05 pm

Shore, Matthias and a 1st, I'll take that and run. I would prefer Petrovic, Shore and Matthias though.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby dbr » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:07 pm

Jovocop, I excluded him as I'm unsure whether he's even AHL eligible next year, let alone a player with a good shot to crack the NHL team.

Strangelove wrote:
dbr wrote:I think if we could get Shore and Florida's first round pick for Luongo - plus Shawn Matthias, just for the hell of it - that would be a pretty damned satisfactory return.


I would do that deal in a heartbeat Dave.

Might hafta throw in a 2nd/3rd though?


Yeah maybe. Maybe we have to buy out Scottie Upshall and send them a prospect, or a pick, or maybe we settle for a 2nd and 3rd and take some big swings at the draft with 5 picks in the first 90.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby SKYO » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:36 pm

Canuck-One wrote:Shore, Matthias and a 1st, I'll take that and run. I would prefer Petrovic, Shore and Matthias though.

Yup that's a helluva lot better than Bozak, Kadri and a pick.
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Just as DBR said just got to negotiate a fair deal with Florida!
shuck and jive MG if you have to.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Zedlee » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:50 pm

Call me a pessimist, but I don't think we're getting much of anything back for Luongo.

Despite the fact that he is a good goalie, that contract is a huge disincentive. With the new back diving provisions in the CBA, teams will be penalized if Luongo retires early. With the contract running till he is 43, that is a certainty.

If Gillis can actually make a hockey trade, then I'll tip my hat to him.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby SKYO » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:58 pm

Strangelove wrote:I don't think MG would prefer Frattin to Kulemin.
I certainly wouldn't.
If it were Kadri + Frattin, I'd want a 1st-round-pick as well.
I'd rather have Kulemin because he has proven he can pass for a 2nd-liner.
I wouldn't touch Reimer with a 10-foot pole.
SKYO wrote:Not to mention they have a coupla decent center rentals like the tired name Bozak or Lombardi who would be the perfect 3rd line center on any contending team, if healthy.

I don't like Lombardi (or Connolly).
I suppose I could settle for Bozak, but I'd prefer Kulemin.


Kadri/Kulemin/pick wouldn't be bad, I'd like Kulemin way better than Bozak I suppose.
It's just a big risk on Kadri though, hoping he pans out cause if he is a bust, and then when Kulemin leaves via UFA after this short season, all we are left with is a 2nd round pick for RL lol. :?
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:05 pm

SKYO wrote:Kadri/Kulemin/pick wouldn't be bad, I'd like Kulemin way better than Bozak I suppose.

It's just a big risk on Kadri though, hoping he pans out cause if he is a bust, and then when Kulemin leaves via UFA after this short season, all we are left with is a 2nd round pick for RL lol. :?


Kulemin is signed til 2014.

But yeah.

I'd rather do a deal with Florida and I still think we WILL do a deal with Florida, too much time on my hands today.

Gotta run now though....

I'll leave this thought with all you Lou-loving Leaf-haters out there:

If Lou became a Leaf would you be able to go from loving him to hating him?

And if so, how quickly? :drink:
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby RoyalDude » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:38 pm

Zedlee wrote:Call me a pessimist, but I don't think we're getting much of anything back for Luongo.



The longer this goes on (Luongo still being a Canuck) the more it tells us that the market ain't exactly chomping at the bits to land Luongo and the longer it does go on the more antsy Lou gets and the more antsy Lou gets the more pressure he puts on ole Mikey to get him outta here and the more pressure Mike gets the lesser chance it is for him to land a big fish for a dangling Lou.

I don't see this boding all that well for us. Maybe Bozak and Kadri is the best we get and if so....yikes! I still predict Kadri being a total bust at the pro level and Bozak, the up coming UFA is nothing more than a poor mans Brenden Morrison.

I am hoping that Gillis can land a first round pick from a fringe team and ends up being a high pick and that we have a shite year, missing the playoffs and end up with two lottery picks. That would really put Mikey in Chef Boi RD's good books.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Meds » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:15 am

RoyalDude wrote:
Zedlee wrote:Call me a pessimist, but I don't think we're getting much of anything back for Luongo.



The longer this goes on (Luongo still being a Canuck) the more it tells us that the market ain't exactly chomping at the bits to land Luongo and the longer it does go on the more antsy Lou gets and the more antsy Lou gets the more pressure he puts on ole Mikey to get him outta here and the more pressure Mike gets the lesser chance it is for him to land a big fish for a dangling Lou.

I don't see this boding all that well for us. Maybe Bozak and Kadri is the best we get and if so....yikes! I still predict Kadri being a total bust at the pro level and Bozak, the up coming UFA is nothing more than a poor mans Brenden Morrison.

I am hoping that Gillis can land a first round pick from a fringe team and ends up being a high pick and that we have a shite year, missing the playoffs and end up with two lottery picks. That would really put Mikey in Chef Boi RD's good books.


I would be happy with Bozak and a 1st round pick from the Leafs. It will be a top 10 pick, and if the prospect cupboard is as bare as you say it is RD, well then we could use that.

I also don't think anyone was holding their breath for Luongo to get traded before the start of the season. MG needs to hang on and wait until a couple of teams start an early panic after a slow start out of the gate. I also don't think Lou is gonna get antsy.
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