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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Uncle dans leg » Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:57 am

Vader wrote:Point is you don't need to draft high...you need to draft well

Don't encourage him!
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:01 am

RoyalDude wrote:
It doesn't work all the time but it worked for Pittsburgh - Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury and Chicago - Toews, Kane, Seabrook.

All Tambellini has to do is move some pieces to fix their week spots, I do like the Fistric trade. Gives them a giant crease clearing presence.

If I'm Tambellini I'm shopping Yakupov. No way in hell I'm trading Eberle. I honestly think the Oilers blew it on the recent draft, should have gone with one of the young stud D-men like Reilly, Reinhart or Murray.


It RARELY works. And I'm sure Vancouver fans are going to sit around on their hands while this team shits the bed for three or four years in a row. Wake up.
All Tambellini has to do is fix their weak spots ? His next good trade will be his first . Yes what a coup getting a lead footed 7th defenceman Dallas has been trying to move for two years.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Vader » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:04 am

Jovocop wrote:The same could be said for the Canucks. The Sedins are the highest first rounders for almost the last two decades. They drafted Hansen in the 9th round. Edler and Bieksa were drafted in the 3rd and 5th round. With Kesler being a mid first rounder and Schneider being a late first rounder, the two are great picks. The Canucks literally stole Ehrhoff and Luongo from other organizations. Also, they found Burrows from nowhere. Yes, the Canucks did screw up a lot of first rounders but they did not have high first round picks that the Hawks, the Penguins or the Oilers that constantly had.

Having high first rounders for years is one of the eaiset ways to draft well.


Yup - agree with most of what you said - except screwing up the first rounders. From 2000 - 2009, which picks were busts? Nathan Smith, Patrick White....that's not too bad. The jury's out on Schroeder though you'd expect a few more points from him at the AHL level given that he's going to make it as a scoring forward or not at all...
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby dbr » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:18 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:It RARELY works.


Yep. Columbus and the Islanders have been practicing this "strategy" for years now.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Jovocop » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:25 am

dbr wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:It RARELY works.


Yep. Columbus and the Islanders have been practicing this "strategy" for years now.


You can throw Winnipeg (Atlanta) to that category as well.

Just a question, besides the Canucks, are there any teams that have never had a first overall pick :?: ?
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Vader » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:33 am

Jovocop wrote:
dbr wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:It RARELY works.


Yep. Columbus and the Islanders have been practicing this "strategy" for years now.


You can throw Winnipeg (Atlanta) to that category as well.


Florida...they made it back to the playoffs finally but only Weiss , Gudbrandson and Kulikov were first round picks who helped get them there....though the 3 firsts in 2010 should help them stay there (Gudbrandson, Howden, Bjugstad)
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Reefer2 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:40 am

dbr wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:It RARELY works.


Yep. Columbus and the Islanders have been practicing this "strategy" for years now.


The biggest problem with the Islanders is Wong then Snow, that organization is once messed up team. They do little to no player development so no wonder they have been crapping the bed for so long. They are so stupid there I doubt they will buy out Rocky and keep him just to meet the cap floor. How can any organization be good with always meeting the cap floor and doing it on purpose.

This is the area Bettman needs to start working on.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Vader » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:47 am

Jovocop wrote:
Just a question, besides the Canucks, are there any teams that have never had a first overall pick :?: ?


I think they are:
Anaheim
Calgary
Carolina
Minnesota
Nashville
San Jose
Vancouver
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Aaronp18 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:01 pm

RoyalDude wrote:If I'm Tambellini I'm shopping Yakupov. No way in hell I'm trading Eberle. I honestly think the Oilers blew it on the recent draft, should have gone with one of the young stud D-men like Reilly, Reinhart or Murray.


I don't know if ownership will let them trade Nail. They demanded he be drafted with their first overall pick.

Murray was going to be managements pick up until the night before the draft. I know that the Nuge and Murray have the same agent and the night before Hopkins congratulated Murray on becoming an Oiler and being the next first overall pick.

Until ownership said their piece and insisted the Yak get picked first overall.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Strangelove » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:28 pm

Strangelove on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:43 pm wrote:Personally I think Lou's feelings were hurt by the decision to go with Schneids for the last 3 playoff games. I think he feels unwanted but is trying to remain classy about this. He KNOWS the time has come for one of he or Schneids to leave town (everyone knows this) and he feels the Canucks have already made their decision based on those 3 games. He's trying to graciously step out of Schneid's way.

If I'm GM of the Canucks I fire the entire coaching staff, reassure Lou that he's The Man, and deal Schneids.

But that's just me.


Just curious as to how many of you think this may have been a big part of why Lou wanted out.

Obviously they have finally: "fired the entire coaching staff, reassured Lou that he's The Man, and dealt Schneids."

But how many think this should have been done 14 months ago when the Great Strangelove suggested it?

And I DON'T wanna see anyone going "AWWWW did Wou's widdle feewings get hurt??" :evil:

True, Lou is not an asshole (graciously steps out of Schneid's way :roll: ) but hey you can't have everything....
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Hockey Widow » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:32 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Strangelove on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:43 pm wrote:Personally I think Lou's feelings were hurt by the decision to go with Schneids for the last 3 playoff games. I think he feels unwanted but is trying to remain classy about this. He KNOWS the time has come for one of he or Schneids to leave town (everyone knows this) and he feels the Canucks have already made their decision based on those 3 games. He's trying to graciously step out of Schneid's way.

If I'm GM of the Canucks I fire the entire coaching staff, reassure Lou that he's The Man, and deal Schneids.

But that's just me.


Just curious as to how many of you think this may have been a big part of why Lou wanted out.

Obviously they have finally: "fired the entire coaching staff, reassured Lou that he's The Man, and dealt Schneids."

But how many think this should have been done 14 months ago when the Great Strangelove suggested it?

And I DON'T wanna see anyone going "AWWWW did Wou's widdle feewings get hurt??" :evil:

True, Lou is not an asshole (graciously steps out of Schneid's way :roll: ) but hey you can't have everything....



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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Lancer » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:42 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Strangelove on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:43 pm wrote:Personally I think Lou's feelings were hurt by the decision to go with Schneids for the last 3 playoff games. I think he feels unwanted but is trying to remain classy about this. He KNOWS the time has come for one of he or Schneids to leave town (everyone knows this) and he feels the Canucks have already made their decision based on those 3 games. He's trying to graciously step out of Schneid's way.

If I'm GM of the Canucks I fire the entire coaching staff, reassure Lou that he's The Man, and deal Schneids.

But that's just me.


Just curious as to how many of you think this may have been a big part of why Lou wanted out.

Obviously they have finally: "fired the entire coaching staff, reassured Lou that he's The Man, and dealt Schneids."

But how many think this should have been done 14 months ago when the Great Strangelove suggested it?

And I DON'T wanna see anyone going "AWWWW did Wou's widdle feewings get hurt??" :evil:

True, Lou is not an asshole (graciously steps out of Schneid's way :roll: ) but hey you can't have everything....


You know Gillis is looking for a crystal ball these days... :lol:
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby ukcanuck » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:01 pm

Lancer wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
Strangelove on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:43 pm wrote:Personally I think Lou's feelings were hurt by the decision to go with Schneids for the last 3 playoff games. I think he feels unwanted but is trying to remain classy about this. He KNOWS the time has come for one of he or Schneids to leave town (everyone knows this) and he feels the Canucks have already made their decision based on those 3 games. He's trying to graciously step out of Schneid's way.

If I'm GM of the Canucks I fire the entire coaching staff, reassure Lou that he's The Man, and deal Schneids.

But that's just me.


Just curious as to how many of you think this may have been a big part of why Lou wanted out.

Obviously they have finally: "fired the entire coaching staff, reassured Lou that he's The Man, and dealt Schneids."

But how many think this should have been done 14 months ago when the Great Strangelove suggested it?

And I DON'T wanna see anyone going "AWWWW did Wou's widdle feewings get hurt??" :evil:

True, Lou is not an asshole (graciously steps out of Schneid's way :roll: ) but hey you can't have everything....


You know Gillis is looking for a crystal ball these days... :lol:


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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby ESQ » Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:34 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Strangelove on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:43 pm wrote:Personally I think Lou's feelings were hurt by the decision to go with Schneids for the last 3 playoff games. I think he feels unwanted but is trying to remain classy about this. He KNOWS the time has come for one of he or Schneids to leave town (everyone knows this) and he feels the Canucks have already made their decision based on those 3 games. He's trying to graciously step out of Schneid's way.

If I'm GM of the Canucks I fire the entire coaching staff, reassure Lou that he's The Man, and deal Schneids.

But that's just me.


Just curious as to how many of you think this may have been a big part of why Lou wanted out.

Oooh, getting to double-quote SL!

I was fully on board with the family problems rumour, which I had first heard I think prior to 2011 playoffs that he would ask to be traded after 2012. I was really pissed that Lu would sign that lifetime contract without knowing if it would suit his family life - which I considered to basically be bad faith on Lu's part, and massively screwing the Canucks on his trade value.

Now I'm in serious doubt, and I think you were right all along. Either that or the Aquilinis saw the trade request as ultimately untenable and had to tell him sorry about the fam bud, but you signed on the dotted line.

EDIT: I'll also add, I don't think the return for Schneider would have ever been as high as it was on draft day, and I doubt MG turned out any better offers for him in the past year and a half.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Topper » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:20 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Strangelove on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:43 pm wrote:Personally I think Lou's feelings were hurt by the decision to go with Schneids for the last 3 playoff games. I think he feels unwanted but is trying to remain classy about this. He KNOWS the time has come for one of he or Schneids to leave town (everyone knows this) and he feels the Canucks have already made their decision based on those 3 games. He's trying to graciously step out of Schneid's way.

If I'm GM of the Canucks I fire the entire coaching staff, reassure Lou that he's The Man, and deal Schneids.

But that's just me.


Just curious as to how many of you think this may have been a big part of why Lou wanted out.

Obviously they have finally: "fired the entire coaching staff, reassured Lou that he's The Man, and dealt Schneids."

But how many think this should have been done 14 months ago when the Great Strangelove suggested it?

And I DON'T wanna see anyone going "AWWWW did Wou's widdle feewings get hurt??" :evil:

True, Lou is not an asshole (graciously steps out of Schneid's way :roll: ) but hey you can't have everything....

I find the shrill squeal of your pained twisting to pat yourself on the back very irritating.
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