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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby ukcanuck » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:32 pm

BingoTough wrote:
Topper wrote:If a competition is allowed, it will be one hell of a fight for the starting job, but at the end of the day, I doubt either will have hard feelings towards the other about not starting.


My worry is AV, who has shown repeatedly that he plays favourites. It wasn't like RL spent long periods on the bench while CS got game after game after game. 2 games in the LA series does not indicate AV has more faith in Schneids. It says to me "What have I got to lose? Might as well give the kid some experience. Nobody comes back from 3-0 down, and if he does, we're in the second round!"

What if he still prefers Roberto and gives Corey less games? Then we've lost RL and Corey's pissed at the coach.

Ooops.

Make it black and white, each guy gets 24 games, no back to backs regardless of the score in the game before, or how they play. unless the score goes above 5 goals, no goalie change. It's 1a and 1b and both need to be at the top of their game come play offs. The guy with the record and hot hand starts game one, round one...
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Hockey Widow » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:22 pm

Anyone who thinks that either Cory or Lou would be pissed with one season of platooning if it made the team stronger and better able to contend doesn't really know either player. If the situation were to have been from day one, i.e., no lock out then it would have been different. But the sprint to the playoffs and the playoffs themselves are what the players get up for. Not the doldrums of training camp, Oct, Nov and Dec. I think with this shortened season both guys would play their hearts out and do whatever is best for the team. At season's end it is a different story. But winning is first and foremost and if the best chance to win the cup is with both goalies then I doubt either would be too pissed about that.

Still, I think MG tries to move Luongo in the next couple of weeks but if he can't I think he rides the season with both. Especially if rumours are true that teams with cap problems are interested but need the summer buy out to make it work.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:18 pm

Personally I feel Lu Wongo will be traded within 48 hours.

Everyone involved in a potential trade has had plenty of time to think about it.

I still say he's going to Florida.

How about something like THIS:

Luongo, Raymond, Schroeder, conditional 2nd (if Weiss re-signs).

FOR

Weiss (rental: UFA in 6 months), Upshall (salary dump), Petrovic, Theodore (rental: UFA in 6 months).

While Kesler is out:

Dank - Hank - Burr
Booth - Weiss - Upshall
Higgins - Lappy - Hansen
Weise - Manny - Kassian
Ebbett
Volpatti

Hammy - Bieksa
Garrison - Edler
Ballard - Tanev
Alberts
Petrovic
Corrado

Schneids
Theodore


When Kesler is back:

Dank - Hank - Burr
Booth - Weiss - Upshall
Higgins - *Kesler - Kassian
Lappy - Manny - Hansen
Ebbett
Weise
Volpatti

*obviously Kessler (#1 PP, #1 PK) would get more icetime than Weiss. 2nd/3rd lines would get similar ES icetime.

I've always loved Upshall's game (he has had trouble staying healthy though), but we could use the get-out-of-jail-free buyout in the summer on either/both Upshall/Booth if needs-be. Weiss has experience playing with Booth + Upshall. Ballard gets traded post-season....

:drink:

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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Uncle dans leg » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:49 pm

^Have to think that gets the deal done as far as Van goes but FLA then all of a sudden has nobody to centre the top line. They need Weiss too much to see that one happen.
I would think replacing Weiss with a Howden or Shore type prospect is more likely. They had a decent second half and playoffs last season and if they are indeed ready to buck up for Luongo, they would be looking to win now and likely adding key pieces for a run.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby CFP! » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:04 pm

So really, do we want to deal with FLA AGAIN????

I mean sure, this would be theoretically the best return, but man....Again????? Whats that like 5 trades in 8 yrs????
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:40 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:^Have to think that gets the deal done as far as Van goes but FLA then all of a sudden has nobody to centre the top line. They need Weiss too much to see that one happen.


Yeah I guess you're right Dan.

On the Panthers right now Weiss is the closest thing to #1 centre they have..

Plus was just reading at a Panthers site, apparently both Goc and Matthias are kinda hobbled right now.

Yeah, they pretty much need to hang onto Weiss at this point, even if they lose him for nothing in July.

Obviously they have a bunch of possible young top 6 centres coming up soon enough.

Huberdeau this year, followed by Shore, Bjugstad, Grimaldi, Howden (he might play wing).

*does the math*

Actually, they have WAY TOO MANY possible young top 6 centres coming up! :shock:

Hey, maybe we can help them bring some balance to that team. :wink:

Uncle dans leg wrote:I would think replacing Weiss with a Howden or Shore type prospect is more likely. They had a decent second half and playoffs last season and if they are indeed ready to buck up for Luongo, they would be looking to win now and likely adding key pieces for a run.


Y'know what Dan, I'm starting to believe Luongo+ could land both Shore and Petrovic

(part of that + might hafta be taking the mangled Upshall and buying him out in the summer).

Those Panthers have more young studs in their system than they know what to do with! :D


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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:44 pm

CFP! wrote:So really, do we want to deal with FLA AGAIN????

I mean sure, this would be theoretically the best return, but man....Again????? Whats that like 5 trades in 8 yrs????


*eyes glaze over*

Must trade with Florida, must trade with Florida…..

*snaps out of it*

Yeah it’s odd how many trades these two teams have made.

But hey we’ve been pretty lucky in the ones involving Luongo, amirite? :mex:

I figure Gillis wants to do the classy thing and send Lou home.

I figure the Panther’s upper-management wants Lou cuz he sells tickets.

I figure these two teams are good trade-partners right now.

I figure they’ve had plenty of time to figure a fair trade.

I figure they’re getting ready to pull the trigger as we speak!!

But hey I’ve been wrong before Cookie. :D
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby SKYO » Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:58 pm

I guess teams can start trading pretty quick, I'd laugh a lot like a geek if Luongo got traded tonight. :lol:
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:23 pm

SKYO wrote:I guess teams can start trading pretty quick, I'd laugh a lot like a geek if Luongo got traded tonight. :lol:


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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:39 pm

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Guys I've just been dealt........... POCKET ACES! #latenightpoker


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Y'gotta love the guy....
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Ropesauce » Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:23 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:Anyone who thinks that either Cory or Lou would be pissed with one season of platooning if it made the team stronger and better able to contend doesn't really know either player. ....... But the sprint to the playoffs and the playoffs themselves are what the players get up for. Not the doldrums of training camp, Oct, Nov and Dec. I think with this shortened season both guys would play their hearts out and do whatever is best for the team. At season's end it is a different story. But winning is first and foremost and if the best chance to win the cup is with both goalies then I doubt either would be too pissed about that.

I think waiting til seasons end is a good bet as any,TO doesn't have the necessary pieces for a meaningful trade and
I can't see the panthers parting with Weiss.My dream scenario has lou and Schneider playing lights out and taking the team deep into the playoffs catapulting lou's value,Bryz tanking (again) in Philly and a summer trade for Couturier giving us a much needed top notch young Center
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Arachnid » Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:52 pm

Y'know, a lot of people have been talking about trading Luo NOW or trading him AFTER the season but not a lot are talking about Luo being traded at the TRADE deadline which kinda actually makes the most sense....just SprAYING 8-)
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby mpp » Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:29 am

This isn't about Bobby Lou per se, but... did you notice how Dan Ellis was not in the Checkers lineup last evening? He started last Sunday and, barring injury, there is no reason for his absence. If the rumors linking him to the Canucks were true... It should mean a Canuck goalie is as good as gone.

Obviously Ellis could simply sign elsewhere this Sunday, which would also explain his absence. We will know soon enough.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby mpp » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:08 am

mpp wrote:Obviously Ellis could simply sign elsewhere this Sunday, which would also explain his absence. We will know soon enough.


Poof! ;)
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:40 pm

Here is my prediction. The Leafs will play the whole season with those shit bag keepers they got there now. With the shortened season, and lottery set up for the 2013 Draft in that all 14 non playoff teams get a chance at the no. 1 pick, Nonis being the smart man he is knows that it would be no big deal tanking the year in a shortened lame NHL season , I'm sure the Leafs fans and media will not wet their collective beds if the Leafs missed another playoff. Nonis knows this. Nonis will make a feeble attempt at Luongo but his offer will be shite, "take it or leave it". Knowing how stubborn baggy eyes, Moneyballer is, Gillis turns the deal down. The Leafs end up with a top 6 pick, Nonis the great drafting record he has, will walkaway with a beaut to start the re-build program in T.O.
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