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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby CFP! » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:00 am

Its really too bad Dipetro aint a UFA till 2021.

There is some serious talent in that system.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby ukcanuck » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:15 am

CFP! wrote:Its really too bad Dipetro aint a UFA till 2021.

There is some serious talent in that system.

I forget, how old will Rocky be by then, same age as Jacque Plante?
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby dbr » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:26 am

Uncle dans leg wrote:If I had my way, I would be going for a different look than a prospect. I really like Mike Green in Washington and can't help to think that a sleeper trading partner like the Caps could really use a guy like Luongo. They're also in win-now mode and I reckon they may be looking to change things up a bit. Pure talking out my ass I know but what else do we have????
He hasn't been healthy which is a knock against for sure but the talent this guy possesses is all star caliber. They (Luo + MG)have almost the same cap hit but Mikes' contract only has 2 years left so we gain in this regard. I strongly feel we have a 3-4 year window to win a cup and the team really needs an ace from the back end. As much as I like young prospects I think the time is now to go for the big one.
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Getting a player as good as Green back for Luongo is tantalizing but the cap is almost certainly going to come down and unless you want to watch Alex Edler walk away for nothing the Canucks can't be dealing Luongo for a player with an even higher cap hit - or much cap hit at all, really.

Though I do think the Caps could potentially be an interesting partner in a Luongo trade.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby paddy » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:48 am

RoyalDude wrote:
paddy wrote:Pacific Blue this Florida Love in give it up the deal is done he goes to Toronto...

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu ... --nhl.html


I believe it, Paddy. Ya know why? Cause Gillis is the worst when it comes to trading. I fully expect to be completely disappointed by what Gillis manages to bring back for Lou.

IMHO, it should be Schneider on the block instead of Lou. The returns are far greater and the risks are far less cause lets be honest, Schneider has as much a chance of shitting the bed as being successful as a No. 1 goalie. He truly hasn't been tested with the weight of the world now squarely placed upon his shoulders in the premier goalie graveyard hockey market of the world. I really worry once the honeymoon is over between Canuck fans and Schneider. This city loves their back-ups, hate their starters.


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The former Fat Fuck of a Gm threw the fan-base under a bus cause he couldn't solve the position FUNNY look at his list in Toronto of goalies and truth betold if he ever said "Goalie Graveyard" there he would be lynched... Toskala,Raycroft,Clemensen,Gerber,Pogge,Gustavsson,Giguere,Macdonald,Reimer,Scrivens,Rynnass... Looking at that list Toronto is no more a goalie graveyard than Vancouver is when the GM cannot solve the position in charge is Brian Burke...
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:14 am

Knowing Burke, he is still trying to throw a big useless package of useless players like he did for Calgary in the Phaneuf trade. Burke tries to wow you with numbers than quality when it comes to trading. Unfortunately for him, Gillis is as stubborn as he is. But I still predict, knowing Gillis track record when it comes to trading that whatever we get back will be shite.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Topper » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:39 am

As bag of pucks as long as they don't take up cap space.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby SKYO » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:47 pm

MG will not get this package:
At the draft, reports indicated Vancouver asked for centre Tyler Bozak, defenceman Jake Gardiner, a first round pick and winger Matt Frattin in exchange for the 33-year-old Luongo.


However I can see MG targeting Frattin, maybe Bozak(decent short term rental) and a dman prospect like Finn.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Potatoe1 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:20 pm

I haven't herd anything about the new CBA containing a punitive clause against contracts like Lu's. Has anyone read something on that issue yet?
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby coco_canuck » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:51 pm

Potatoe1 wrote:I haven't herd anything about the new CBA containing a punitive clause against contracts like Lu's. Has anyone read something on that issue yet?


That's something I want to know as well.

If I recall correctly, during Fehr's surreal press conference back in December he said the PA and NHL were close to agreement on some sort of cap-recapture penalty, but I've heard no details and nothing since.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby coco_canuck » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:53 pm

Topper wrote:As bag of pucks as long as they don't take up cap space.


I will say though, having the option to buy out 2 contracts may give Gillis some leeway to take on a contract.

But that's risky if Ballard isn't the only other legitimate buy-out option on the roster next summer.

Gillis has some big decisions to make.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Hockey Widow » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:01 pm

coco_canuck wrote:
Potatoe1 wrote:I haven't herd anything about the new CBA containing a punitive clause against contracts like Lu's. Has anyone read something on that issue yet?


That's something I want to know as well.

If I recall correctly, during Fehr's surreal press conference back in December he said the PA and NHL were close to agreement on some sort of cap-recapture penalty, but I've heard no details and nothing since.



The Burke clause. Two things Burkie has advocated: ability to keep/trade cap space: the cap-recapture penalty ( I like that name for it, who coined cap-recapture). He wants Luongo and he wants to ability to take less cap and let the Canucks hold the consequences if Luongo retires before the cap expires. Its part of his self righteous act.

I hope Luongo goes to the Leafs, that we get a pretty return and then in two years Luongo exercises his escape clause to get out of Toronto, after leading them to the playoffs for two consecutive years.

I still think given the cap this season and next that we have no hurry to trade Luongo. We can afford to wait until this season is done, teams complete their buy outs and then see what the market bears. Luongo has been nothing but a committed Canuck and a good teammate. I doubt having him here would pose a problem. It may pose a dilemma for AV though.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:54 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:We can afford to wait until this season is done, teams complete their buy outs and then see what the market bears. Luongo has been nothing but a committed Canuck and a good teammate. I doubt having him here would pose a problem. It may pose a dilemma for AV though.


I think this is a ridiculous notion, won't happen. Luongo will be dealt sooner than you think. That being said, what happens if Schneider completely shits the bed and Luongo rocks the joint out, just battin pucks out of the air with round the world glove hand saves? Would Doc Strangelove still prefer his brethren Aryan Ginger over the Olive skinned Pizano? Something tells me the Neo Nazi from Abbotsford would.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Canuck-One » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:11 pm

I agree with HW. There is no need to trade Luo unless MG gets EVERYTHING he thinks he should in return. The cap this year affords us the luxury of keeping them both. The cap next year also affords us the luxury of keeping them both. Why trade him unless we get what MG considers fair market value.























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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Strangelove » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:49 pm

RoyalDude wrote:Would Doc Strangelove still prefer his brethren Aryan Ginger over the Olive skinned Pizano? Something tells me the Neo Nazi from Abbotsford would.


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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Postby Nuckertuzzi » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:46 am

Never thought I'd say this but given the shortened season and new cap system, maybe the best thing for us is to not trade him this year. It's going to be a salary dump at best with an ugly return. Too uncertain in goal with Cory missing so much hockey and uncertain backup situation with Lack injured/unproven and all. The only risk is if Lu will be a good soldier and backup Cory without being a distraction because the only way he gets No.1, especially in the playoffs, is if Cory proves he can't handle the job or gets injured.

It's a big risk keeping him but goaltending is going to be the biggest factor in this brief year and giving up the insurance might be the biggest risk we take. As bad as our center position looks, Tyler fuckin' Bozak ain't enough for me to give up the insurance.


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