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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Boston Canucker » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:15 pm

Fred wrote:I think take home tests are fairly common now. It's a cost saving to the uni. And the funny thing as pointed out a lot of students work with the group think concept and the uni knows that.

I'm wondering if his scholarship is a year by year deal. Yale introduced that many years ago and I believe a number of universities have followed along so it could be they just don't offer to renew his scholarship next year and that's up to the registrar rather than the coach. Puts him in limbo until next Fall, and that's difficult to deal with. He's 21 I believe so he doesn't have many options


Take homes don't provide any cost savings, but pedagogically if used properly they can be a good way to test the student's capacity to understand the course subject matter and synthesize in a way that goes beyond the slap dash, regurgitation that happens in many in-class finals (the dreaded blue books). I do in-class finals but give them the parameters of the questions in advance so that I can raise the bar, but I have colleagues who take homes. I do think it is more of a crapshoot with intro courses, especially if they are mass lecture courses. In those cases, it actually increases the workload of the teacher (or more likely grad assistants; faculty at Harvard would not grade a word produced in an Intro course), whereas you could do scantron for a final and be done grading in much shorter time period. If this Intro to Congress course was known as an easy course it would have had to be b/c the word is out that the expectations aren't that high - as content-wise there is no reason why it would be easier or more difficult than say a Presidency, or Courts class - with lax plagiarism controls. This time, someone caught on, or maybe a new instructor or a grad assistant was more on top of it than previous instructors.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby herb » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:39 pm

In my experience, take home exams usually have more difficult content than in class exams because the students have lots more time to complete them and almost unlimited resources to try to answer the questions.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Fred » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:33 pm

Am I right that take home exams are generally multi answer questions that can be checked without a Prof/asst having to even look at the papers. Rather than exams that need to expand a point or give an explanation which needs reading ?. Maybe things have changed. I know my daughters take home exams were just a series of tick boxes on her laptop that the uni computer marked The prof only saw the results without ever going through the actual exams. A lot of these kids ( Athletes ) do their school work on the bus travelling back and forth to road games, it's hard not to joint debate. Some one has dropped them in it or so it seems to me. It's some thing like asking a ass of a referee if he's done his taxes for the year yet :lol:
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Boston Canucker » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:05 pm

Fred wrote:Am I right that take home exams are generally multi answer questions that can be checked without a Prof/asst having to even look at the papers. Rather than exams that need to expand a point or give an explanation which needs reading ?. Maybe things have changed. I know my daughters take home exams were just a series of tick boxes on her laptop that the uni computer marked The prof only saw the results without ever going through the actual exams. A lot of these kids ( Athletes ) do their school work on the bus travelling back and forth to road games, it's hard not to joint debate. Some one has dropped them in it or so it seems to me. It's some thing like asking a ass of a referee if he's done his taxes for the year yet :lol:


No, not that I've heard at the college level. Take homes are usually essay format that involve some version of synthesizing the course materials to respond to questions. They are not the same as self-standing research or theory essays, but are more demanding, or should be than say a 2hr in class final. For a class on the Congress, there would like be a written component, maybe analyzing the movement of legislation through a particular committee, the role of special interests, or some such...a multiple choice exam you'd just do in class, and yes, easy to grade, and at Harvard, either way, none of those Profs are doing any of the grading, regardless of the assignment. they probably have poached some of the written work from the internet...happens all the freaking time.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Todd Bersnoozi » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:25 pm

Yeah, I'm surprised they have take home exams @ a Ivy League school like Harvard. I went to UBC and it was not very common. The closest was a distance ed course and I was given the choice to write the final or do a research essay; I chose the later. I also had profs who gave us like 7 essay topics and 3 would be on the final, but not an actual take home exam.


Brick Tamland wrote:Why on earth would Harvard allow take home tests? I find that concept just weird.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Boston Canucker » Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:03 pm

Todd Bersnoozi wrote:Yeah, I'm surprised they have take home exams @ a Ivy League school like Harvard. I went to UBC and it was not very common. The closest was a distance ed course and I was given the choice to write the final or do a research essay; I chose the later. I also had profs who gave us like 7 essay topics and 3 would be on the final, but not an actual take home exam.


Brick Tamland wrote:Why on earth would Harvard allow take home tests? I find that concept just weird.


Harvard doesn't give a shit about teaching, especially U-grad first years. Profs don't get tenure and promotion for teaching, but rather scholarship. It's likely that a poorly paid grad assistant is doing the real teaching there, and he/she is swamped trying to get their diss done...
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby RoyalDude » Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:43 pm

Strangelove wrote:The latest rumour is Lou for Bjugstad + Jovo.



I'd be happy with a Bjugstad return for sure. Jovo is good insurance for Edler's UFA situation and back issues, but Bjugstad would definitely upgrade our prospect pool. In the future, we might not be able to beat the likes of the young Oilers with skill but if w are a monster team in size we could at least make it difficult for their small weasely skilled players.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Todd Bersnoozi » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:10 am

Yeah, when the sedins retire and stuff, I wouldn't mind molding a team in the image of the Bruins, Ducks, Jersey and Kings. Rather than go for guys with a high skill set, just fill the roster with a bunch of big buys with average skills and skating ability. We may not score a lot of pretty goals nor carry anymore hart/art ross type players, but hopefully we can at least make the playoffs, be a team that is difficult to play against and beat the snot out of the opposition. :lol:


RoyalDude wrote:In the future, we might not be able to beat the likes of the young Oilers with skill but if w are a monster team in size we could at least make it difficult for their small weasely skilled players.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Tciso » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:09 pm

He had a great game last night against the Flames. Absolutely sick on the shoot out. He seems to be playing a big boy game so far this season, and I love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkerNe3hZag

RoyalDude wrote:I worry that ole Zack might not be there in the head and the heart. Can you imagine if this guy had Stan Smyl's passion for balls to the wall work ethic every shift? The games that I have seen of Kassian, he is a frustrating player, gives flashes here and there but for the most part he is pretty much not all that noticeable.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Strangelove » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:36 pm

Thanks for bumping this thread:

RoyalDude on Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:30 pm wrote:OK, if Zack Kassian doesn't start getting his shit together soon, Gillis needs to be fired. Apparently Zack is shitting the bed again tonight.


Less than 7 weeks ago!! :lol:

Hmmm should I run RoyalDude + Gassian through the search engine?? :D

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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby rats19 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:23 pm

GOD does not appreciate cowards...
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:32 pm

RD is getting the floor mopped with his tranny loving ass again.




What a surprise :lol: :lol:
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby RoyalDude » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:55 am

rats19 wrote:GOD does not appreciate cowards...


It's hard to do battle with a fictional fairy tale figure who created this world we live in in 7 days. I mean, its no wonder why Doc McChristian devotes all his teary eyed Jimmy Swaggart love for him while living up there in sodomizing, Bible thumping Ozark country we call Abbotsford
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby rats19 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:47 am

RoyalDude wrote:
rats19 wrote:GOD does not appreciate cowards...


It's hard to do battle with a fictional fairy tale figure who created this world we live in in 7 days. I mean, its no wonder why Doc McChristian devotes all his teary eyed Jimmy Swaggart love for him while living up there in sodomizing, Bible thumping Ozark country we call Abbotsford

Blasphemer.... :devil: :wink:
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Uncle dans leg » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:08 am

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