Prospects Thread 2012-13

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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Southern_Canuck » Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:31 pm

Sunday Oct 7

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Cape Breton 3 Val d'Or 7
Honzik still recovering from shoulder surgery (Trudeau 24 saves on 27 shots, Bureau 22 saves on 26 shots)

Cape Breton 2-4-3

OHL

Sudbury 6 Ottawa 4
Corrado 0 points, -1

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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Lancer » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:12 am

Aaronp18 wrote:Why are we trying to draw conclusions after 5 games BTW? Oh well, kids a bust I guess.


Yeah, even I'm cringing at the hacks on Gaunce. Nice to see him pop a goal in there, and his +/- doesn't look good, but it's sooooo early in the season. I'll reserve judgemental comment until 1/4 way through the season at least. That said, it would be nice to see his offense start to take off. Anybody wonder if the lack of team offense is due to the players or the system their coach is preaching?
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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Southern_Canuck » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:42 pm

^^^ask and you will receive, I guess... Gaunce is playing in an afternoon game today.

Monday Oct 8

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Gaunce 1 goal, even

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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:47 pm

Lancer wrote:
Yeah, even I'm cringing at the hacks on Gaunce. Nice to see him pop a goal in there, and his +/- doesn't look good, but it's sooooo early in the season.


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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Southern_Canuck » Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:18 pm

Wolves Make Roster Moves

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"The Vancouver Canucks have assigned forwards Steven Anthony and Prab Rai, defenseman Adam Polasek and goaltender Joe Cannata from the Chicago Wolves to the ECHL’s Kalamazoo Wings. The Canucks also have assigned right wing Kellan Tochkin from the Wolves to the Central Hockey League’s Missouri Mavericks, while Chicago has assigned goaltender Mathieu Corbeil to Missouri.

In addition, Chicago has signed defenseman JEREMIE BLAIN to a Standard Players Contract (SPC) and assigned him to the ECHL’s Idaho Steelheads.

Chicago’s roster now stands at 31 players, which includes 19 forwards, 10 defensemen, and two goaltenders."


No surprises on Anthony, Rai, Cannata, and Tochkin - but I didn't expect Polasek to be beaten out by Hunt, Negrin, Miskovic, and even Andersson.

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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Lancer » Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:29 pm

Southern_Canuck wrote:No surprises on Anthony, Rai, Cannata, and Tochkin - but I didn't expect Polasek to be beaten out by Hunt, Negrin, Miskovic, and even Andersson.


Yeah, Polasek is a bit of a surprise. Maybe it was a matter of giving him ample playing time and Kalamazoo was the best place to give him that. Hopefully he gets back up there. Archibald must be impressing because I would have expected to see him going to Kalamazoo as well by now.
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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Fred » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:08 pm

Jensen update

http://canucksarmy.com/2012/10/9/canuck ... serien-sel

I was also surpised when Polasek was sent down to the ECHL If the lockout is settled he'll be up again but none the less I'm surprised
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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby dbr » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:43 pm

Obviously every player is different and even the two situations may not be that comparable in general but if you take a look at the kids who were in the ECHL during the last lockout who were around Polasek's age, it's not exactly a list of future NHL stars.

The names I recognize among the 22 and under crowd are Ole-Kristian Tollefsen, Patrick Dwyer, Deryk Engelland, Josh Gratton, Dave Steckel and Rich Peverly.

I excluded goaltenders for obvious reasons, and some kid by the name of Alex Burrows didn't make the list by virtue of being 23 that season.
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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Southern_Canuck » Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:22 pm

So, who's left in Wolves Camp?

FORWARDS:
ARCHIBALD, Darren (LW) L 6-3 212 New Market, Ont. 02/09/90 Chicago (AHL), Kalamazoo (ECHL)
DAVIES, Michael (F) R 5-9 179 Chesterfield, Mo. 12/10/86 Chicago (AHL)
DESBIENS, Guillaume (RW) R 6-2 204 Alma, Que. 04/20/85 Calgary (NHL), Abbotsford (AHL)
EBBETT, Andrew (C) L 5-9 174 Calgary, Alb. 01/02/83 Vancouver (NHL)
FRIESEN, Alex (C) L 5-10 189 St. Catherines, Ont. 01/30/91 Niagara (OHL)
GORDON, Andrew (RW) R 6-0 194 Halifax, N.S. 12/13/85 Anaheim (NHL), Syracuse (AHL), Chicago (AHL)
HAYDAR, Darren (RW) R 5-10 171 Milton, Ont. 10/22/79 Chicago (AHL)
KASSIAN, Zach (RW) R 6-3 214 Windsor, Ont. 01/24/91 Buffalo (NHL), Vancouver (NHL), Rochester (AHL)
LONGPRE, Nathan (F) L 6-1 192 Peterborough, Ont. 06/16/88 Chicago (AHL), Springfield (AHL)
MALLET, Alexandre (C) R 6-1 194 Amqui, Que. 05/22/92 Rimouski (QMJHL)
Matson, Taylor (C) R 6-0 185 Mound, Minn. 09/16/88 Chicago (AHL), U. of Minnesota (WCHA)
MILLER, Kenton (C) L 6-0 196 Redvers, Sask. 02/10/91 Calgary (WHL), Moose Jaw (WHL)
MILLER, Tim (F) R 6-0 190 Davisburg, Mich. 03/06/87 Chicago (AHL)
PINIZZOTTO, Steve (C) R 6-1 195 Mississauga, Ont. 04/26/84 Did Not Play
RODIN, Anton (F) L 6-0 175 Stockholm, Sweden 11/21/90 Chicago (AHL)
SCHNEIDER, Stefan (F) R 6-5 210 Vernon, B.C. 12/13/89 Chicago (AHL)
SCHROEDER, Jordan (C) R 5-9 177 Prior Lake, Minn. 09/29/90 Chicago (AHL)
STERLING, Brett (LW) L 5-7 175 Los Angeles, Cal. 04/24/84 St. Louis (NHL), Peoria (AHL), Portland (AHL)
SWEATT, Bill (LW) L 6-0 204 Elburn, Ill. 10/21/88 Vancouver (NHL), Chicago (AHL)

DEFENCEMEN:
ANDERSSON, Peter (D) L 6-3 194 Kvidinge, Sweden 04/13/91 Orebro (Sweden)
CONNAUTON, Kevin (D) L 6-2 196 Edmonton, Alb. 02/23/90 Chicago (AHL)
HUNT, Brad (D) L 5-9 171 Ridge Meadows, B.C. 08/24/88 Chicago (AHL), Bemidji State University (WCHA)
JOSLIN, Derek (D) L 6-1 205 Richmond Hill, Ont. 03/17/87 Carolina (NHL), Charlotte (AHL)
MATHESON, Mark (D) L 6-2 205 Calgary, Alb. 02/01/84 Chicago (AHL)
MISKOVIC, Zach (D) R 6-1 185 River Forest, Ill. 05/08/85 Hershey (AHL)
MULLEN, Patrick (D) R 5-10 184 Boston, Mass. 05/06/86 Manchester (AHL)
NEGRIN, John (D) L 6-2 202 Vancouver, B.C. 03/25/89 Abbotsford (AHL), St. John’s (AHL), Utah (ECHL)
SAUVE, Yann (D) L 6-3 213 Montreal, Que. 02/18/90 Chicago (AHL)
TANEV, Chris (D) R 6-2 185 Toronto, Ont. 12/20/89 Vancouver (NHL)

GOALIES:
CLIMIE, Matt (G) L 6-3 197 Leduc, Alb. 02/11/83 Chicago (AHL)
LACK, Eddie (G) L 6-5 193 Norrtalje, Sweden 01/05/88 Chicago (AHL)

OK, goaltending is set.

On defence, if they keep only 8, you've got to figure that Negrin, Andersson, Miskovic, and Hunt are battling for 2 spots.

If they keep 14-15 forwards, then I'm guessing Kenton Miller, Schneider, Archibald, and Friesen might be sent down - and I could see them loaning Andrew Gordon who, by some reports last season, had trouble finding a role.

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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Fred » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:35 am

Does MG wish for younger and bigger extend to the farm team seems to me there is alarge number of smaller forwards
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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Aaronp18 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:51 am

Fred wrote:Does MG wish for younger and bigger extend to the farm team seems to me there is alarge number of smaller forwards


Define large number.

Of the 8 guys under 6':
DAVIES, Michael
HAYDAR, Darren
STERLING, Brett
HUNT, Brad
I do not believe are property of the Vancouver Canucks.

So that means 4 of the remaining 31 players are actually property of the Canucks and under 6' tall.

Chicago will sign their own players in order to ice a competitive product without the worry of some of their best players getting called up to play in the NHL. There's more than a few guys with contracts only with Chicago and not the Canucks, y'know the Jason Krogs of the world that can excel at the AHL level but just can't make that transition to the NHL game. Often it has a lot to do with their size, they seem to be able to get away with being on the smaller side in the AHL but the guys in the NHL are just as fast and even bigger making it very hard for them to succeed.
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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Fred » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:59 am

If the Canucks want to prepare them selves for a bigger team, then 38% of their players is quite a high number ( I've exlduded the goalies )

Let's hope Archibald makes the team this season and plays up to his size
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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Southern_Canuck » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:55 am

Southern_Canuck wrote:OK, goaltending is set.

On defence, if they keep only 8, you've got to figure that Negrin, Andersson, Miskovic, and Hunt are battling for 2 spots.

If they keep 14-15 forwards, then I'm guessing Kenton Miller, Schneider, Archibald, and Friesen might be sent down - and I could see them loaning Andrew Gordon who, by some reports last season, had trouble finding a role.


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AHL's Chicago Wolves assign Darren Archibald and John Negrin to Kalamazoo of ECHL and sign Kenton Miller and assign him Missouri of CHL.

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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby dbr » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:58 pm

Really hoping to see Alex Friesen stick out of that group.
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Re: Prospects Thread 2012-13

Postby Southern_Canuck » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:20 pm

dbr wrote:Really hoping to see Alex Friesen stick out of that group.


Even more than Friesen, I would hate to see Mallet sent down...

Currently there are still 17 forwards in camp... I think a typical roster size is 25.

Maybe 9 D, 2 G, + 14 F?

Or maybe 8 D 2 G, and 15 F?

Either way, at least 2 more forwards would have to go, I think. I think Schneider will be one, and unfortunately it will probably be Friesen, Mallet, Gordon, or Rodin for the other...

Chicago signed forwards left in camp:

Davies, Haydar, Longpre, Matson, T. Miller, Pinizzotto (not sure how his PTO vs. his Canucks contract works), and Sterling.

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