clem wrote:There's lots of self proclaimed experts. That's why it's good to reference third parties, even though they're not perfect either.
Not sure why you're taking exception since my initial post wasn't a reply to you, nor was it solely intended to critique your entire argument. If it were, I would have been far more explicit.
Also, I didn't say it's wrong to reference third parties. I said you can't put an incredible amount of weight into what they have to say when you're trying to back your argument with a source.
clem wrote:If you going to use a prospect definition, it better include the player you're calling a prospect, & be from a third party (not one you just made up).
What are you trying to say here?
I have to name a player to state a definition for what is generally thought to be the requirements to consider a player a prospect or an NHL player?
Not sure why that is necessary, but here you go:
Someone like Kassian is no longer considered a prospect, because he's played enough games to no longer qualify as a rookie. Barring unforeseen circumstances, Kassian is penned in as a Canucks regular next season.
Nicklas Jensen is still a prospect, because he'd be considered a rookie if he were to suit up in an NHL game next season. Barring a spectacular camp, Jensen will be playing in Sweden next season.
clem wrote:In this case, a prospect (Erixon) who's played in the NHL. A guy 21 days younger than Kassian. My basis for comparison was clear.
If you want to change the comparison basis later on, because you don't like the outcome, then feel free to start your own.
I wasn't referring to any specific comparison, but saying that a player like Kassian is no longer a prospect, therefore he shouldn't be ranked relative to Erixon if they were in the same organization, because Erixon is still a prospect who has yet to earn a full-time job in the NHL.
In this case, age is irrelevant when saying one is a prospect, and another isn't.
Jeff Skinner is 20, a full year younger than Erixon. Here age is also irrelevant.
Maybe it's just a technical difference in the end, but the point is, a player like Kassian is no longer a prospect, while a player like Erixon is. Age doesn't matter, NHL experience does.
Typically, when it comes to the NHL, a prospect is a player who has yet to make an NHL club. In this case Kassian has, while Erixon hasn't. Erixon may very well make the Blue Jackets and flourish, but to this point he's a rookie who has yet to earn a spot on a team.