RFA Voracek
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Re: RFA Voracek
Just to play devil's advocate, had the Canucks acquired Voracek with an offer sheet at $4.25 million, we would have given up a 1st and a 3rd.
To acquire Booth at the same salary and a 3rd, we gave up Sturm and Sammuelson.
Last season Voracek scored 2 more goals than Booth in 20 more games.
To acquire Booth at the same salary and a 3rd, we gave up Sturm and Sammuelson.
Last season Voracek scored 2 more goals than Booth in 20 more games.
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Even better we know that Philly would have matched a $4.25M offer sheet so we would have likely had to offer something more.ESQ wrote:Just to play devil's advocate, had the Canucks acquired Voracek with an offer sheet at $4.25 million, we would have given up a 1st and a 3rd.
To acquire Booth at the same salary and a 3rd, we gave up Sturm and Sammuelson.
Last season Voracek scored 2 more goals than Booth in 20 more games.
Say between $5,046,585 to $6,728,781.
Where the compensation is - 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd.
Does anyone really wonder why offer sheets aren't handed out regularly especially with the cap going up every year and so many teams with significant cap space.
The only way I can see these working (without screwing your own team over with a ridiculous contract and overcompensation) is to target teams with RFA's that are close to the cap.
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Offer sheets are stupid. Only one attempt has been successful over the past 15 years, and if you ask most Oiler fans they will tell you it wasn't really successful at all.
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No offense my friend, but at 23 years of age, Voracek is already a far more dynamic hockey player than the 28 year old dumb blonde will ever be.ESQ wrote:Just to play devil's advocate, had the Canucks acquired Voracek with an offer sheet at $4.25 million, we would have given up a 1st and a 3rd.
To acquire Booth at the same salary and a 3rd, we gave up Sturm and Sammuelson.
Last season Voracek scored 2 more goals than Booth in 20 more games.
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I love Offer Sheets.herb wrote:Offer sheets are stupid. Only one attempt has been successful over the past 15 years, and if you ask most Oiler fans they will tell you it wasn't really successful at all.
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One that I thought was close was the Vanek offer sheet.
I just looked back - the compensation would have been 4 first-round draft picks
It never occurred to me before, but my god Regier must be kicking himself over that one!
I just looked back - the compensation would have been 4 first-round draft picks
It never occurred to me before, but my god Regier must be kicking himself over that one!
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Why? Because they generally accomplish very little?RoyalDude wrote:I love Offer Sheets.herb wrote:Offer sheets are stupid. Only one attempt has been successful over the past 15 years, and if you ask most Oiler fans they will tell you it wasn't really successful at all.
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Offer sheets aren't stupid per se, it's just that as the salary cap went up, the dollar scale for compensation also went up. If they ever adjust the offer sheet compensation scale in the new CBA, offer sheets can be a potent weapon again. If you look at the RFA compensation tables for the 2006 season, compensation for an offer sheet worth $4M a year would have been 2 firsts, a 2nd, and a 3rd. If say Vorachek a team offered Voracheck a $4M offer last season (he made $2.25M last season) and the compensation was 2 firsts, a 2nd, and a 3rd, would you take it? I probably would have taken the compensation.herb wrote:Offer sheets are stupid. Only one attempt has been successful over the past 15 years, and if you ask most Oiler fans they will tell you it wasn't really successful at all.
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$4M was slightly under 10% of the Cap in 2006.Of course you would take the compensation for a guy like Voracek because no sane GM would spend 10% of his cap on that player.FAN wrote:Offer sheets aren't stupid per se, it's just that as the salary cap went up, the dollar scale for compensation also went up. If they ever adjust the offer sheet compensation scale in the new CBA, offer sheets can be a potent weapon again. If you look at the RFA compensation tables for the 2006 season, compensation for an offer sheet worth $4M a year would have been 2 firsts, a 2nd, and a 3rd. If say Vorachek a team offered Voracheck a $4M offer last season (he made $2.25M last season) and the compensation was 2 firsts, a 2nd, and a 3rd, would you take it? I probably would have taken the compensation.herb wrote:Offer sheets are stupid. Only one attempt has been successful over the past 15 years, and if you ask most Oiler fans they will tell you it wasn't really successful at all.
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Seriously, who would offer 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd for Voracek? He is not a franchise player.FAN wrote:Offer sheets aren't stupid per se, it's just that as the salary cap went up, the dollar scale for compensation also went up. If they ever adjust the offer sheet compensation scale in the new CBA, offer sheets can be a potent weapon again. If you look at the RFA compensation tables for the 2006 season, compensation for an offer sheet worth $4M a year would have been 2 firsts, a 2nd, and a 3rd. If say Vorachek a team offered Voracheck a $4M offer last season (he made $2.25M last season) and the compensation was 2 firsts, a 2nd, and a 3rd, would you take it? I probably would have taken the compensation.herb wrote:Offer sheets are stupid. Only one attempt has been successful over the past 15 years, and if you ask most Oiler fans they will tell you it wasn't really successful at all.
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An impatient GM with big balls who slays deals left right and center would!Jovocop wrote:Seriously, who would offer 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd for Voracek? He is not a franchise player.
A moron also would likely do the same.
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herb wrote:An impatient GM with big balls who slays deals left right and center would!Jovocop wrote:Seriously, who would offer 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd for Voracek? He is not a franchise player.
A moron also would likely do the same.
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A team who is perennially drafting in the late 20s in the first round of the NHL draft? Probably work out to be a good deal for a few teams. Red Wings perhaps?Jovocop wrote: Seriously, who would offer 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd for Voracek? He is not a franchise player.
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herb wrote:An impatient GM with big balls who slays deals left right and center would!Jovocop wrote:Seriously, who would offer 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd for Voracek? He is not a franchise player.
A moron also would likely do the same.
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Re: RFA Voracek
There are not many things in life that are guaranteed but one thing for certain is, if you replaced the name Voracek with David 'the heathen' Booth, you Jovocop most certainly would have no problem giving up 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd for David 'the airhead' Booth.Jovocop wrote: Seriously, who would offer 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd for Voracek? He is not a franchise player.
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