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Re: Shane Doan

Postby black ace » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:41 pm

ESQ wrote:Umm, it should be BC Sports Central CFL Pool Champion, sounds much more impressive anyway :thumbs:



Your right.

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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Meds » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:42 pm

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Meds wrote:Well seeing as Selanne just signed a one year deal worth $4.5M, and he's 42 years old, I think Doan's cap hit is going to be in that ball park. It likely won't be more than that though as Selanne out-scored Doan this year by 4 goals and 16 points. Doan still has a few years left in the tank, no question, but his production is not the same as Selanne's and he's asking for longer term. I think age versus style of play and production will alnd him in the same range.

It's probably wishful thinking. Selanne has been signing below-market value one-year contracts with the Ducks for years now. Given the players who have signed $4M+ deals of late, I think Doan will get closer to $5M+ or even more depending on the length of the contract and whether Doan chooses money.


That's true. Selanne wants to be in Anaheim, so that makes a difference.

Also consider that Doan maxed his single season point production out at 78 points in 07-08. So consider that Doan is, on average, a 65 point guy. I'd say that $5M is ballpark if Booth is sitting at $4.5 M and has so far been a 50 point guy at best. Doan is an upgraded version of Booth.

Also, seeing as they are similar players, and have similar beliefs and faith, Doan might be a great fit here as not only a player who can add 50 points and some gritty, hard-nosed, hard working, Canadian hockey leadership, but also a guy that can perhaps help Booth take that next step the way Sundin helped Kesler.

In that case, I'd be OK with Gillis going to $5.5M for Doan on a 3 year deal.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Canuck-One » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:46 pm

Welcome to the board Callicles. I agree that far too many GM's get panicked and sell the farm for a player whose best before date is well behind him. Doan though still has the skills and if put with the Sedins a 30 goal year wouldn't be out of the question. A deal for around 5.5 million for 3 years with a club option for the 4th wouldn't be too bad. I also doubt that we will get him but it would be nice.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Callicles » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:44 pm

Canuck-One wrote:Welcome to the board Callicles. I agree that far too many GM's get panicked and sell the farm for a player whose best before date is well behind him. Doan though still has the skills and if put with the Sedins a 30 goal year wouldn't be out of the question. A deal for around 5.5 million for 3 years with a club option for the 4th wouldn't be too bad. I also doubt that we will get him but it would be nice.


Thanks for the welcome. I don't think a three year contract for Doan is necessarily a bad thing. The salary is something that worries me ... for a player of Doan's age. I don't doubt Doan's willingness or work ethic, but playing the way he does puts a lot more miles on the body than playing the way, say, Selanne does (no critique of of Selanne...they're different types of players). A multi-year deal at that money leaves the Canucks with a cap hit similar to that of Luongo. Now, saying Gillis signs Doan to a the type of contract you mention and ships of Luongo, that's close to even on the cap hit (I think). And, with the Canucks closing in on the cap it doesn't leave much room for salary coming back in the Luongo trade. I'm a fan of Doan, and I think he'll have no trouble getting a multi-year, big money contract if that's what he wants, but I don't think it's the best move for the Canucks at this time, in this position. If they could talk him in to taking 4 million per for 3 years, or perhaps a few more dollars and one year less, then it might be a good move. But, unless Doan is burning to play in Vancity, that seems unlikely. Save the money, work the trade angle with Luongo, and save some cap room for later trades.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Aaronp18 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:50 pm

Strangelove wrote:Sometimes you eat the horse....


....sometimes you can never have enough glue!
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Strangelove » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:50 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:
Strangelove wrote:Sometimes you eat the horse....


....sometimes you can never have enough glue!


Okay, I suppose that would satisfy my superior moral sensibilities.

Just as long as horse corpses aren't left for the vultures, hey I'm good.

Sign Shane to a two-year $20mil contract and be done with it. :wink:
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Strangelove » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:51 pm

black ace wrote:
ESQ wrote:Umm, it should be BC Sports Central CFL Pool Champion, sounds much more impressive anyway :thumbs:



Your right.

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Re: Shane Doan

Postby RoyalDude » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:27 pm

If we are lucky enough to sign Shane Doan I'm wondering if we should give him Matts Sundin's number 13 or Messier's/Maki's number 11? And then Hank hand him the 'C''?
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby rats19 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:31 pm

RoyalDude wrote:If we are lucky enough to sign Shane Doan I'm wondering if we should give him Matts Sundin's number 13 or Messier's/Maki's number 11? And then Hank hand him the 'C''?

then hang his jersey...
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby RoyalDude » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:34 pm

rats19 wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:If we are lucky enough to sign Shane Doan I'm wondering if we should give him Matts Sundin's number 13 or Messier's/Maki's number 11? And then Hank hand him the 'C''?

then hang his jersey...


I don't know Rats, it just seems that we have been down this road before. Signing these well past their prime 'fading stars' to come in and save the day. It never pans out. But knowing Gillis and his consistency in making dumb move after dumb move, I fully expect him to sign the old fart to a huge contract.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Aaronp18 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:39 pm

Strangelove wrote:.
Sign Shane to a two-year $20mil contract and be done with it. :wink:


Yeah, plus I've tought of a better idea if Doan's horses are such a concern for him.

We'll just get good ole rats to babysit!

Ratski get down there and offer up our services. Take GMMG with ya :thumbs:
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby BladesofSteel » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:38 pm

RoyalDude wrote:If we are lucky enough to sign Shane Doan I'm wondering if we should give him Matts Sundin's number 13 or Messier's/Maki's number 11? And then Hank hand him the 'C''?

Come on Dude, let's be fuckin' realistic for change.

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Clearly Gillis would lower Markus' one-nine from the rafters just for Shane "The Saint" Doan.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Lancer » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:09 pm

Latest news apparently is there is an offer from an unnamed eastern team for 4 years and $30 million. Flyers maybe? Sounds like something they'd do but I dunno about the cap space. Washington? The Rangers? Who else?

I dunno if I'd like seeing Gillis making that kind of offer, but maybe it comes down to him seeling Vancouver as the best mix of location, environment and chances for winning it all. As others here have said, he would fill one of those key parts that would make Vancouver tha favourite to beat again.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby CFP! » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:37 pm

Lancer wrote:Latest news apparently is there is an offer from an unnamed eastern team for 4 years and $30 million. .


Not.

$7.5 for Doan is ridiculous. Where did you hear this nonsense?

My offer, 2 yrs $5.5 cap hit. Structure it however you wish.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Lancer » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:51 pm

The report/rumour is out on dobber sportsblog here: http://forums.dobbersports.com/showthread.php?t=136017

Not what I would do or wouldwish Gillis to do but the word is out there. Payday or Stanley Cup parade- which would you choose?
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