Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

[Topper]

Just wondering out loud here but I wonder if Gillis could have turned Luongo and Hodgson into Huberdeau and a little more?

http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=146017#p146017

[ODB]

Just wondering out loud here but I wonder if Gillis could have turned Luongo and Hodgson into Huberdeau and a little more?

http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=146017#p146017

Nice BUTT, in your post we need to get Doan and frankly I don't see that happening. I think Doan stays where he is.

CoHo, being a centre, might have been viewed as enough to give up Huberdeau. Maybe???

Not that it really matters now.

[Lancer]

Just wondering out loud here but I wonder if Gillis could have turned Luongo and Hodgson into Huberdeau and a little more?

http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=146017#p146017

Nice BUTT, in your post we need to get Doan and frankly I don't see that happening. I think Doan stays where he is.

CoHo, being a centre, might have been viewed as enough to give up Huberdeau. Maybe???

Not that it really matters now.

I guess management at the time wasn't certain they were going to go with Schneider vice Luongo moving into next season. The fact they started Luongo says as much about that as playing Schneider to end it says about who they wanted as a starter for next season. It would have taken Indiana-Jones-Boulder-Sized nuts to trade Luongo at that point.

Who knows? It might have broken the malaise around the team and sparked them into the home stretch and into the playoffs. Can't say what it would have done to the morale in the room or how they would have taken such a trade. I think Schneids had to provie himself to the team in the playoffs before management knew the team had the confidence in Schneider going into the playoffs.

Not knocking Kassian at this point (I know I have before), but Hodgson would be a good card to play now.

[Diehard1]

I guess management at the time wasn't certain they were going to go with Schneider vice Luongo moving into next season. The fact they started Luongo says as much about that as playing Schneider to end it says about who they wanted as a starter for next season. It would have taken Indiana-Jones-Boulder-Sized nuts to trade Luongo at that point.

Who knows? It might have broken the malaise around the team and sparked them into the home stretch and into the playoffs. Can't say what it would have done to the morale in the room or how they would have taken such a trade. I think Schneids had to provie himself to the team in the playoffs before management knew the team had the confidence in Schneider going into the playoffs.

Not knocking Kassian at this point (I know I have before), but Hodgson would be a good card to play now.

Give me a guy like Kassian over a guy like Hodgson any day of the week. Hodgson could be a Derek Roy/Chris Drury type, a guy who can play 2nd line centre and won't look too out of place but doesn't have the size or speed to be a true difference maker.

Kassian is a guy who could be a Rich Tocchet/Shane Doan type, a little bit dirty and tough as nails. These type of guys can play in the top 6 on any team in the league.

If both turn out then Kassian will likely be the more valuable guy. If neither turn out it's a moot point, and if only one turns out it's a calculated risk for both teams. Such is life with prospects.

[donlever]

If both turn out then Kassian will likely be the more valuable guy. If neither turn out it's a moot point, and if only one turns out it's a calculated risk for both teams. Such is life with prospects.

Plus one and Halle-fukin-lujah!!

[Meds]

I think the Hodgson/Kassian debate, over which team got the best deal, ended when the firm of Gillis, Gilman & VIgneault, quit having to take Daddy Hodgson's phone calls.

If Kassian is the team guy he's rumored to be, and puts in the effort and brings sandpaper on any given night, then I don't really care if Hodgson goes on to become an 80-100 point guy and Kassian tops out at 60+. We've seen plenty of teams spin their wheels with a couple of top flight forwards with baggage. I'd rather not see the Canucks in that group.

[Boston Canucker]

I think the Hodgson/Kassian debate, over which team got the best deal, ended when the firm of Gillis, Gilman & VIgneault, quit having to take Daddy Hodgson's phone calls.

If Kassian is the team guy he's rumored to be, and puts in the effort and brings sandpaper on any given night, then I don't really care if Hodgson goes on to become an 80-100 point guy and Kassian tops out at 60+. We've seen plenty of teams spin their wheels with a couple of top flight forwards with baggage. I'd rather not see the Canucks in that group.

I agree, if Kassian turns out to be a Lucic type of power forward then what Hodgson does is likely irrelevant (unless he goes A grade star in 3-4 years.) Still, until I see that from Kassian I can't give the thumbs up on the Hodgson trade; kid didn't score big goals in tough games against top teams (Boston, Detroit, Detroit, San Jose) last year by accident. I'll be rooting for Kassian to live up to expectations...he does it, all good.

[Strangelove]

Plus one and Halle-fukin-lujah!!

Missed you in church on Sunday Donny.....

[RoyalDude]

I'm reading a lot of "what if's" regarding Kassian, like he is guaranteed to becoming our Lucic or Clowe. The jury is still out on this kid. We gave up a kid who was over the 'what if's' phase and pretty much proved that he's the goods whereas Kassian is a pure project/gamble right now. Right now there is a massive question mark sitting over Kassian's head. The kid has a ton to proove before y'all start shoeing him in as some sort of future Cam Neely. He's done fuck all to this point to even deserve such honors. He was a minor league project when we got him and he is still a minor league project. He has a long way to go.

[CrzyCanuck]

Hodgson had a lot more to prove before you insert him as a no.2 center with 18 mins TOI and heavy duties.

A project for a project
A daddy's boy for a potential psychopath

[Lancer]

Hodgson had a lot more to prove before you insert him as a no.2 center with 18 mins TOI and heavy duties.

A project for a project
A daddy's boy for a potential psychopath

Given that choice, I'll take the psychopath.

Didn't mean to re-ignite the whole Hodgson/Kassian debate. Given all that's come out about Hodgson and what I've seen of Kassian, it's a bit of a saw-off between the two though management would prefer not to have to deal with the Hodgson headache anymore. We'll see how the two's careers develop.

Just wondering if trading Hodgson now as part of a package wouldn't have landed the Canucks a bigger fish. I guess we'll see how big a fish Kassian becomes.

[tantalum]

Good chance that Hodgson's value would fairly low right now if he remained a canuck, given AV likely benches him down the stretch and perhaps even sits him in the pressbox during the playoffs. Not to mention the likely trade request following the season (the Hodgson camp was clearly going down that road). The bias towards the zone starts and how AV used Hodgson the last 6-8 weeks as a canuck were not a fluke. They were pumping up his value to maximize a return. Kid has promise to be sure but Kassian likely has a similar offensive upside but has far more physical upside (hodgson likely has the greater hockey sense/intelligence upside). Kassian I think was the greater organizational need.

[dbr]

I'm reading a lot of "what if's" regarding Kassian, like he is guaranteed to becoming our Lucic or Clowe.

[Topper]

Good chance that Hodgson's value would fairly low right now if he remained a canuck,

Finishing the season in Chicago after acquiring Paulson would have been the kicker.

[SKYO]

Or CoHo propelled us past the Kings with his clutch scoring, and he becomes untouchable.

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Imagine Luongo accepts to go to Columbus?

1000 miles to Florida, compared to 3000 miles from Vancouver. (approx)

http://i.imgur.com/xa51V.jpg

We could actually acquire SL's fave RW Nash in a uber blockbuster deal.
Luongo/Burrows OR Booth/Rodin for Nash