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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399913

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And the NW division just got a lot more interesting.
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mathonwy wrote:http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399913
And the NW division just got a lot more interesting.
Not for Calgary. :D
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$7.5 and change over 13 years for both players???

Wow, how brutal does Luongo's deal look now? :roll:

Finally, the domino has dropped.
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BladesofSteel wrote: Finally, the domino has dropped.
Who's the next domino, Luongo or Nash?
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Too much money for the wrong players. Needed Weber's shot more than Suter and a center more than a winger (they have solid wingers, Mark Cullen is not a 2nd line center) and relying on Granlund to step up and right into that role is damn foolish.
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So now David Poile is very disappointed and a little upset, misled perhaps. Says in all his negotiations with Suter beginning last year never once did Suter say location was his primary motivating factor. Now Suter says location was the big thing for him. So why does Poile feel a little misled ? Because had Suter said these things last January then Poile may have traded the big guy and gotten a return. Same scenario with Hamhuis. Hamhuis only said he wanted to test FA but when he signed with the Canucks, actually left money on the table to do so, he said it was location that motivated him.

So the lesson here is for GM's to really know what motivates these guys and act accordingly.

Poile felt all along he could re-sign Suter but it appears that he really never had a chance. That has him feeling disappointed and a little misled along the way.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he talks with Weber about a new deal.
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The Wild are much improved.
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HW, I suspect the idea of a tandem with Zach and the commitment that meant the Wild were willing to make combined with being close to home.
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Hockey Widow wrote:So now David Poile is very disappointed and a little upset, misled perhaps. Says in all his negotiations with Suter beginning last year never once did Suter say location was his primary motivating factor. Now Suter says location was the big thing for him. So why does Poile feel a little misled ? Because had Suter said these things last January then Poile may have traded the big guy and gotten a return. Same scenario with Hamhuis. Hamhuis only said he wanted to test FA but when he signed with the Canucks, actually left money on the table to do so, he said it was location that motivated him.

So the lesson here is for GM's to really know what motivates these guys and act accordingly.

Poile felt all along he could re-sign Suter but it appears that he really never had a chance. That has him feeling disappointed and a little misled along the way.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he talks with Weber about a new deal.

I can see it now...Poile asks Weber..."Shea,what do you want"?
Answer..."A 100 million deal from the Canucks"
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FAN wrote:The Wild are much improved.
They are improved. Not much. Sitting on the edge of cap hell and no real depth on D or at Forward. We've seen this play out before in different cities. Go for a big home run and more often than not, you strike out.
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Pacific Blue's love for everything Oil the Wild just may have the best upside within the division in the upcoming yrs their prospects are really good... The two biggest losers today obviously the Preds but Detroit when July 1 started had more cash to spend than anybody...

the times they are a changin...Good on Minny good on Edmonton big time players in free agent frenzy...
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Blaster86 wrote:
FAN wrote:The Wild are much improved.
They are improved. Not much. Sitting on the edge of cap hell and no real depth on D or at Forward. We've seen this play out before in different cities. Go for a big home run and more often than not, you strike out.
I don't see cap hell for them, they basically have a full roster and no real big free agents to worry about. Backstrom's $6m comes off the cap next year and Heatley's $7.5m the year after.

Pierre-Marc Bouchard is $4m of LTIR waiting to happen.

As for your previous comment that they got the wrong players, I might be inclined to agree but frankly the right kind of players just don't hit free agency all that often and there weren't any of them this year. Sure they could use Chara and Weber more than Suter, and sure they could use Kopitar or Kesler better than Parise but they can use Suter and Parise a hell of a lot more than they could use Kurtis Foster and .. Andrei Kostitsyn? Who else is left?
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I just don't get how they are going to make this work Cap-Wise:

Suter: 7.5 million
Parise: 7.53 million
Heatly: 7.53 million
Koivu: 6.75 million
Backstrom: 6 million

35 million in 5 players? According to CapGeek they have approx 600k of cap space yet and only 24 players under contract... better hope the cap doesn't go down in the new CBA.
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Only 24? There is a 23 player limit on rosters during the season so they are just fine.
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Eddy Punch Clock wrote:
mathonwy wrote:http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399913
And the NW division just got a lot more interesting.
Not for Calgary. :D
Doesn't make much difference for Calgary. Sure, the Wild have gotten stronger, but other teams have either not improved or regressed, so it's a wash.
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