Free Trade Deals - 2012

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Re: Free Trade Deals - 2012

Postby the Dogsalmon » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:12 pm

coco_canuck wrote:
donlever wrote:Larry Robinson would not get enough love.

Potvin is in the argument.

Sooo many....


Just a few more off the top of my head, no particular order:

Shore
S.Niedermayer
Bourque
Coffey
Stevens
L.Murphy



definitely Bourque and Coffey(for offensive abilities alone)...
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Re: Free Trade Deals - 2012

Postby Topper » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:03 pm

Orr is on a plateau far above the rest.

Tim Horton there with Harvey and Lidstrom, Big Bird and Savard far above the likes of Coffey, Stevens, Murphy and Bourque.
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Re: Free Trade Deals - 2012

Postby Meds » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:20 pm

Topper wrote:Orr is on a plateau far above the rest.

Tim Horton there with Harvey and Lidstrom, Big Bird and Savard far above the likes of Coffey, Stevens, Murphy and Bourque.


While there is no questioning Orr's talent, do you think we would have seen the same end-to-end rushes and point totals if he had played today?

It's the same old argument anyone makes when comparing players from different era's. Sport science wasn't what it is now back when Orr was playing. The greats from the past were great because they were the most dedicated and gifted in a time where pure talent and decent conditioning set you apart from the pack. With the athletic conditioning you see today, and the level of coaching/training that every player has received when they get to the NHL level, I think that those great players would still be great, but they wouldn't be waist, head, and shoulders, above the pack the way they were back then.

The rules have also changed.....or rather the way they are enforced has, I think that would have a huge impact as well.
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Re: Free Trade Deals - 2012

Postby Topper » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:32 pm

Just imagine what today's sports science could have done for those knees.
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Re: Free Trade Deals - 2012

Postby BladesofSteel » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:35 pm

Topper wrote:Just imagine what today's sports science could have done for those knees.

Or Pavel's, for that matter.
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Re: Free Trade Deals - 2012

Postby darren » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:09 am

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399877

Detroit apparently offering Suter $90m/13years. This strikes me as a Kovalchukesqe contract.... a little cap circumvention front loading in there?

Amazing that we've arguably never found a real No1 D, and the Preds had two. Although one has to ask: Is Suter *that* good? How will he look when he isn't playing alongside Shea Weber?

I also think Meds is right. I don't think we'll ever see another player dominate the league the way Lemeuix/Gretzky/Orr did. The consistency of coaching and training across the league now is too good. I recall that Gretzky said as much himself; that when he came into the league there were players who couldn't take a pass on the backhand, etc.
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