NHL sends CBA termination notice!

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NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by ODB » Wed May 16, 2012 1:30 pm

The NHL Players Association has notified its players Wednesday through a memo that the NHL has sent written notice it plans to "terminate and/or modify" the collective bargaining agreement when it expires on Sept. 15.

This is a formality because it was well understood by the NHLPA that the league wanted to negotiate a new deal.

Under CBA Article 3.1(a), according to the memo, had no notice been given by either party, the existing CBA would have remained in place for another year.

In the memo, NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr told players they would be notified when negotiating sessions are to begin. He said all players are encouraged to attend as many of the bargaining sessions as possible.

"There is no better way to send a message to the league that players are engaged in the process of bargaining for a fair new contract," Fehr said in the memo.
And So It Begins! :crazy:
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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by donlever » Wed May 16, 2012 2:03 pm

..one regular season game.

I'm done.
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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by ODB » Wed May 16, 2012 2:14 pm

donlever wrote:..one regular season game.

I'm done.
I tend to agree Donny. They better not get stupid... Billions in revenues being split up!
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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by Farhan Lalji » Wed May 16, 2012 2:21 pm

donlever wrote:..one regular season game.

I'm done.
Me too.

I will use my alloted sports time in devotion to the Seattle Seahawks.

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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by the Dogsalmon » Wed May 16, 2012 3:12 pm

why a group of millionaires need a union is beyond me...

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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by ODB » Wed May 16, 2012 3:18 pm

the Dogsalmon wrote:why a group of millionaires need a union is beyond me...
You forgot Gary Bettman is a little prick....
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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by clem » Wed May 16, 2012 3:36 pm

The Penticton Young Stars Rookie Tournament bites the dust this year - as a result of no CBA.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2012/05/ ... nt_notice/

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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by dbr » Wed May 16, 2012 5:00 pm

the Dogsalmon wrote:why a group of millionaires need a union is beyond me...
Why do you think they are millionaires?

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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by porp » Wed May 16, 2012 6:27 pm

the Dogsalmon wrote:why a group of millionaires need a union is beyond me...
Unions aren't only about pay. Unions also provide leverage to ensure that the working environment is safe for the workers.

Unfortunately, the NHLPA has failed spectacularly in this regard; re: lobbying for more consistent and stringent refereeing to crack down on cheap shots, head shots, and intents to injure (even if "wearing down" an opponent, wacking and hacking at injuries or creating minor injuries).

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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by SKYO » Wed May 16, 2012 6:52 pm

I wonder if the Canucks would fare better if they started at the same time the NBA did this season? So as our players don't go through the usual long haul grind of the what's now a boring regular season where the fans and players are anticipating the post season.

Another reason to have a 3rd scoring line that AV can give more minutes during the long regular season to save our star players HEALTH for the playoffs where they are usually too banged up to play good.

Hence LA being under the radar this season never got the same punishment that the top teams get, so now they are nice and healthy with no significant injuries to play at their best in these playoffs.

If they win at all this season every team will play their best against them next season and play Dustin Brown like he's Matt Cooke.
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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by the Dogsalmon » Thu May 17, 2012 8:55 am

ODB wrote:
the Dogsalmon wrote:why a group of millionaires need a union is beyond me...
You forgot Gary Bettman is a little prick....


you should never capitalize its name...

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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by Lancer » Thu May 17, 2012 9:48 am

SKYO wrote:I wonder if the Canucks would fare better if they started at the same time the NBA did this season? So as our players don't go through the usual long haul grind of the what's now a boring regular season where the fans and players are anticipating the post season.

Another reason to have a 3rd scoring line that AV can give more minutes during the long regular season to save our star players HEALTH for the playoffs where they are usually too banged up to play good.

Hence LA being under the radar this season never got the same punishment that the top teams get, so now they are nice and healthy with no significant injuries to play at their best in these playoffs.

If they win at all this season every team will play their best against them next season and play Dustin Brown like he's Matt Cooke.
I was wondering much the same thing in another thread. If anything, I think a labour stoppage (but not another lost season), would benefit the team and give the guys more time to heal up without consequence in the standings.
porp wrote:Unions aren't only about pay. Unions also provide leverage to ensure that the working environment is safe for the workers.

Unfortunately, the NHLPA has failed spectacularly in this regard; re: lobbying for more consistent and stringent refereeing to crack down on cheap shots, head shots, and intents to injure (even if "wearing down" an opponent, wacking and hacking at injuries or creating minor injuries).
I think a player's union is a necessity, no matter how much they get paid. Ask some of the guys who played before the PA came along what life was like.

That said, I prefer collaborative business-labour approaches (like what they have in Germany) vice the Bob Goodenow/Cape Breton Coal Miner school of militant confrontationalism. Here's hoping both sides approach this as partners instead of enemies.

Porp's point is part of the key to the league's success going forward: more inclusion and collaboration on matters of mutual interest and domain. Player safety, rule changes, consistency and rationale in suspensions - these are all things in which the players have just as much stake as the owners and GMs. Two problems: Bettman hates letting the PA have a say in anything and will say no to any further inclusion outright; and the players have to achieve some coherency in what they want on those fronts. Easy to say 'protect the players' until one of their own gets a 35-game suspension. Feher has to herd the cats if they want to achieve anything meaningful in those areas, let alone escrow and salary cap.

Imagine a CBA where rule changes were a true collaborative effort; refs were clearly instructed at the beginning of the season and then left to a 3rd party for performance scrutiny and sanctions; and a mutually agreed-upon arbitrator rule on suspensions and fines. I wonder what the product on the ice would look like. I think I'd like it a lot better than what we're seeing now.
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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by rats19 » Thu May 17, 2012 12:03 pm

Farhan Lalji wrote:
donlever wrote:..one regular season game.

I'm done.
Me too.

I will use my alloted sports time in devotion to the Seattle Seahawks.
Comin around farhan..lol
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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by Strangelove » Thu May 17, 2012 1:38 pm

ODB wrote:
donlever wrote:..one regular season game.

I'm done.
I tend to agree Donny. They better not get stupid... Billions in revenues being split up!
Oh c'mon guys, you'll be more jaded than ever but you'll be there.

We've been through too much as long-time Nuckies to not see this thing through to a Cup! :thumbs:
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Re: NHL sends CBA termination notice!

Post by Tciso » Thu May 17, 2012 2:34 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Oh c'mon guys, you'll be more jaded than ever but you'll be there.

We've been through too much as long-time Nuckies to not see this thing through to a Cup! :thumbs:
Yeah. It could be a lot worse. Look at the 1994 MLB strike that probably cost the Expos their only World Series. Now, as a fan, that one really hurt!
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