Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

[Strangelove]

I don't understand how Rick Nash at 7.8 mil cap hit for 6 more years is so desirable? I mean , if he was scoring like Stamkos, or a player like Crosby, who makes those he plays with better...then, maybe. But he is not that type of player!!! Forget about it. The money can be better spent elsewhere. I would much prefer to spend that kind of coin on someone like Parise!

Nash = Parise + toughness + durability.

I'd say Parise lands a similar contract as a UFA.

What are the odds of Parise choosing Canucks?

Having said that, each would be likely to score at a 40-goal pace in Vancouver.

I'd take Nash over Parise every day of the week

... and twice on Sunday.

[CrzyCanuck]

Nash is a true beast with the puck.

If it wasn't for the length of the contract I woould be drooling all over him..

wait, actually even with that length I would still very love to see him in Canucks jersey.

Sedins contract set to expire in 2 years anyway, by that time Nash will only be 30.

[Farhan Lalji]

Since a true day at Canuckscorner wouldn't be the same without a craz/retarded suggestion from good ol' Farhan, here goes.......

Ovechkin may no longer fit into Washington's system and plan. Assuming that Hoyt, at some point, pulls a Tim Tebow and proves himself to not quite be at "that level" yet, the Caps might be looking for a goalie in the off-season.

So how does Luongo, Kesler, and Ballard for Ovechkin, Backstrom, and Green sound?

There..............NOW a true day at Canuckscorner has officially taken place.

[Strangelove]

Found this on another board:

9. Elite Talent - possesses the potential for greatness, a perennial All-Star throughout his career.

Defense: Nicklas Lidstrom, Zdeno Chara, Chris Pronger
Forward: Ilya Kovalchuk, Joe Thornton, Eric Staal
Goaltender: Martin Brodeur, Roberto Luongo, Henrik Lundqvist

I found this "Hockeys Future" prospect ratings system.

Apparently they still use Luongo as an example for "elite talent".

Luongo has a GREAT contract. It's a plus, not a minus (except for cap-floor teams until the last 3 years of contract).

Luongo IF traded will bring back a lot more than most media seem to be saying.

I like what Doug Maclean said: Gillis should ask for Hedman AND Tampa's 1st.

[Canuck-One]

I agree with you Strangelove and of course MacLean. Why should we go hat in hand to trade one of the top goalies in the league for less than a top two D or a top 3 forward plus a high draft pick? Trying to get a top goalie seems to be one of the hardest positions to fill. Look around the league and what do you see, Quick, Rinne, Smith, Miller, Lundqvist, Luongo and Schneider. Those are the best, they're the ones that can give you a chance to win it all. 7 guys. Yet some posters want Luc Schenn? No I want Hedman and a 1st. Or give me Stamkos. I don't know what Gillis will do but I can't see enough value on the Leafs for any kind of trade to be made.

[Farhan Lalji]

I agree with you Strangelove and of course MacLean. Why should we go hat in hand to trade one of the top goalies in the league for less than a top two D or a top 3 forward plus a high draft pick? Trying to get a top goalie seems to be one of the hardest positions to fill. Look around the league and what do you see, Quick, Rinne, Smith, Miller, Lundqvist, Luongo and Schneider. Those are the best, they're the ones that can give you a chance to win it all. 7 guys. Yet some posters want Luc Schenn? No I want Hedman and a 1st. Or give me Stamkos. I don't know what Gillis will do but I can't see enough value on the Leafs for any kind of trade to be made.

Watching the Capitals in these playoffs, and their apparent lack of need for Ovechkin under Hunter's system...........combined with the possibility that Hoyt pulls a Tim Tebow and falls back down to earth.

Is it possible?

Luongo and Ballard.

[Diehard1]

I like Nash as an offensive player, but his defense leaves a lot to be desired. He's similar to Ovechkin that he's great when he has the puck but does almost nothing without it.

For $7.8 million a season you'd ideally like a guy who can play a two way game. That said, the Nucks obviously need more scoring punch when the games get tough, and Nash would be a very good fit from that standpoint. I'm not sure how his salary fits in (in fact it doesn't) so it's probably a moot point, but depending on the acquisition cost I'd probably be up for picking him up.

[Island Nucklehead]

Look around the league and what do you see, Quick, Rinne, Smith, Miller, Lundqvist, Luongo and Schneider. Those are the best, they're the ones that can give you a chance to win it all. 7 guys. Yet some posters want Luc Schenn? No I want Hedman and a 1st. Or give me Stamkos. I don't know what Gillis will do but I can't see enough value on the Leafs for any kind of trade to be made.

If Schneider is on that list you should add Elliot, Price, Thomas, Kipper.

Then factor in teams that really aren't going to want (or pay a premium for) goaltending. Detroit (Howard), Pittsburgh (Fleury), Boston (Thomas/Rask), Philly (Bryz), Montreal (Price), Winnipeg (Pavelic) etc. Then the teams we wouldn't want to trade Luongo to (Edm/Cgy/Col etc). Then the teams Luongo will waive his NTC to go to (ie probably not Anaheim, Columbus).

The list gets whittled down pretty quick. Luongo's value around the league may be high, but the "real" market for him is quite small. Gillis is looking at a bidding "skirmish" of maybe only 3-4 teams.

And get real, if Stamkos was on the block, he's getting Schneider, Edler, Jensen and a first round pick from us (and I'd do it.)

[Rayxor]

If Schneider is on that list you should add Elliot, Price, Thomas, Kipper.

Then factor in teams that really aren't going to want (or pay a premium for) goaltending. Detroit (Howard), Pittsburgh (Fleury), Boston (Thomas/Rask), Philly (Bryz), Montreal (Price), Winnipeg (Pavelic) etc. Then the teams we wouldn't want to trade Luongo to (Edm/Cgy/Col etc). Then the teams Luongo will waive his NTC to go to (ie probably not Anaheim, Columbus).

The list gets whittled down pretty quick. Luongo's value around the league may be high, but the "real" market for him is quite small. Gillis is looking at a bidding "skirmish" of maybe only 3-4 teams.

Prior to this season, Elliot was riding a journeyman career that looked to be on a downswing. He didnt hold a starting job. He isnt an elite goalie but rather a decent goalie having a great year. I do agree that Schneider is a bit misplaced on that list as he hasnt been a starter in this league yet.

Of the teams you listed, Detroit and Philly, possibly Pittsburgh might be interested if they can move their own guy at the same time. Howard and Bryz may not have the confidence of the management and those teams might want to jump on this rare opportunity. Although Fleury has won a cup, his most recent playoff performance makes Cloutier's playoff record look good.

[Uncle dans leg]

I like Nash but I doubt hes coming for Luongo. Why the hell would RL waive his NTC to go to Columbus? Ian Clarke? Serious?

Toronto, Washington, Tampa Bay and a long shot Florida. I just cant see any other teams fitting in a trade involving him.

[wafflecombine]

If we are going to get all crazy and talk Ovi... I suggest we look at the Pens too.

Crosby, Malkin and Staal are all coming up to the end of their contracts.

As we've said before, anyone is trade bait... if the price is right.

And as much as we piss and moan about Lou, I give you MAF's beautiful display of goal-tending as an example of true and complete fail.

[vic]

I like Nash but I doubt hes coming for Luongo. Why the hell would RL waive his NTC to go to Columbus? Ian Clarke? Serious?

Toronto, Washington, Tampa Bay and a long shot Florida. I just cant see any other teams fitting in a trade involving him.

Why on earth would he go to Toronto? Because Dregger said Toronto is on his list (that doesn't exists yet)?

A team that has missed the playoffs for 8 straight years, year after year trying to hit a home run and failing, only way GMMG trades him to TO is if he gets a significant piece back, which puts them right back to where they were the past two years (adding a goalie, but losing somewhere else) - probably not an ideal situation for Luongo.

If we are going to get all crazy and talk Ovi... I suggest we look at the Pens too.

Crosby, Malkin and Staal are all coming up to the end of their contracts.

As we've said before, anyone is trade bait... if the price is right.

IMO, Staal would be the perfect 2nd line center for this team - Kesler can go back an play on the wing.

[Strangelove]

Look around the league and what do you see, Quick, Rinne, Smith, Miller, Lundqvist, Luongo and Schneider. Those are the best, they're the ones that can give you a chance to win it all. 7 guys. Yet some posters want Luc Schenn? No I want Hedman and a 1st. Or give me Stamkos. I don't know what Gillis will do but I can't see enough value on the Leafs for any kind of trade to be made.

If Schneider is on that list you should add Elliot, Price, Thomas, Kipper.

No way does Elliot belong on that list imesho.

So we're talking about Lou & Schneids both on the Top Ten list, fair enough.

Then factor in teams that really aren't going to want (or pay a premium for) goaltending. Detroit (Howard), Pittsburgh (Fleury), Boston (Thomas/Rask), Philly (Bryz), Montreal (Price), Winnipeg (Pavelic) etc. Then the teams we wouldn't want to trade Luongo to (Edm/Cgy/Col etc). Then the teams Luongo will waive his NTC to go to (ie probably not Anaheim, Columbus).

The list gets whittled down pretty quick. Luongo's value around the league may be high, but the "real" market for him is quite small. Gillis is looking at a bidding "skirmish" of maybe only 3-4 teams.

Okay now you seem to have switched gears and are talking about Lou's trade value (btw 3-4 teams = bidding WAR).

Look at that Top Ten Goalies list, how many are available this summer??

[Orcasfan]

I like Nash but I doubt hes coming for Luongo. Why the hell would RL waive his NTC to go to Columbus? Ian Clarke? Serious?

Toronto, Washington, Tampa Bay and a long shot Florida. I just cant see any other teams fitting in a trade involving him.

There actually are a couple of reasons why Luo would consider Toronto, believe it or not! First, he is familiar with their management - hello, Nonis. And, second, because he would be closer to his family in Montreal. Another influence might be the attitude of the Toronto fans. After the excruciating run of goalies in the past few years, I think there would be huge welcome from those same fans, and a long honeymoon period!

[Orcasfan]

I like Nash but I doubt hes coming for Luongo. Why the hell would RL waive his NTC to go to Columbus? Ian Clarke? Serious?

Toronto, Washington, Tampa Bay and a long shot Florida. I just cant see any other teams fitting in a trade involving him.

Why on earth would he go to Toronto? Because Dregger said Toronto is on his list (that doesn't exists yet)?

A team that has missed the playoffs for 8 straight years, year after year trying to hit a home run and failing, only way GMMG trades him to TO is if he gets a significant piece back, which puts them right back to where they were the past two years (adding a goalie, but losing somewhere else) - probably not an ideal situation for Luongo.

Oops! Wrong quote above. This is the one I was responding to!