Coach AV returns next year? Yes or No

[dhabums]

There was a comment earlier, wondering if the players have tuned him out.

I've been getting more annoyed lately with some of his questionable choices.
His fave MayRay keeps getting top 6 ice time.

We had one good chance to win the cup last year. Lu craps the bed game 3 and AV leaves him in for EIGHT goals?
I don't give a s**t if Lu wants to stay in, the coach needs to pull him after 4.
Lu can't win on the road, so why didn't Schneids start game 4?

What's going on with the lines tonight, why is AV tinkering in an elimination game?

Why isn't Burrows with the Sedins?
Why did he break up the Amex line?

I'm thinking that it's time to have a coaching change....

In my world he was fired after the second loss to Chicago. I still think he should have been.

[Tciso]

I think MacT is the right guy. AV is great in the regular season, when the game is wide open, the cycle is easy, and you can score on the rush. But, once the playoffs start, and everything tightens up, we need a coach tht can get teh guys to score in the dirty areas. Let's face it, Our net presence the last 2 years in the playofs has been terrible. Had we been scoring a dirty, greasy goal every game, we'd have won the cup, and still be playing today. MacT imo knows greasy goals, and he knows defensive hockey.

[Boston Canucker]

I like AV as a coach. Two straight Pres trophies and a trip to the finals are evidence of a guy who knows what he is doing, so I've got no anti-AV feelings. But I take the position that any coach, even the best, can start to lose the attention of the team. I would not be furious if AV is back, but I'd rather see a new voice behind the bench, preferably not a retread (eg. Wilson or Mac T) but an up and comer like they got with Dineen in Fla., someone with an emerging resume who could guide the team over the next 4-5 years as young players move up and the team keeps it's focus on contending.

I think the silence from AV thus far may indicate he's pondering an exit himself, with an eye on MTL.

[vic]

Where is AV? No post mortem from the coach? Sportsnet reported he was spotted at YVR the other day leaving town...

[CFP!]

Please no Mac T.

I understand he didn't have a lot of talent in his coaching career but, gawd no.

[Todd Bersnoozi]

Just heard this from David Pratt on CKNW. He said it seems like ownership is not really happy with AV, so that might open the door for him to go back to Montreal. Also, #99 the Great One seems to be talking with Aqua-man and company as well and there's a chance he may come in as some kind of management/front office position.

Wow, wouldn't it be karma if Gillis gets moved out too? Way back there were rumours of Gillis talking to ownership behind Nonis's back to steal the job. What if the Great One does the same to Gillis? Who knows. That would probably open the door for Mac-T to be the new coach with his connection to Gretz. I know, If Gretzky does come in, it'll proabably in some kind of supportive role to Gillis, but I can't help wondering.

[nuckster]

Just heard this from David Pratt on CKNW. He said it seems like ownership is not really happy with AV, so that might open the door for him to go back to Montreal. Also, #99 the Great One seems to be talking with Aqua-man and company as well and there's a chance he may come in as some kind of management/front office position.

Wow, wouldn't it be karma if Gillis gets moved out too? Way back there were rumours of Gillis talking to ownership behind Nonis's back to steal the job. What if the Great One does the same to Gillis? Who knows. That would probably open the door for Mac-T to be the new coach with his connection to Gretz. I know, If Gretzky does come in, it'll proabably in some kind of supportive role to Gillis, but I can't help wondering.

wow!

[Topper]

There was a comedic reference in Ian McIntyre's column that seems to have been Pratted and the looney tunes here once again run with it.

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/MacIntyre+Cody+Hodgson+unhappy+problem+solved/6543940/story.html

AND ANOTHER THING: The statistical argument for Hodgson making a difference seems to be the same kind of wonky anti-global-warming-science that some people use to make the case for firing Canucks coach Alain Vigneault, whose team’s 228 points this season and last included 105 wins – five more than the Pittsburgh Penguins and at least 10 more than any other NHL team.

But, aha, the Canucks play in the dismal Northwest Division so their performance and back-to-back Presidents’ Trophies don’t count. Of course, Vancouver still went 11-6-3 against the fierce Central Division and 11-5-4 against the Pacific.

By the way, did anyone cut the Canucks slack for their record in the first half of last decade when the Northwest was probably the toughest division in the National Hockey League? You play the schedule you have and the Canucks have handled theirs better than any team the last two years.

If managing-owner Francesco Aquilini thinks he can make the Canucks better by dumping the most successful coach in franchise history, fire away. But there are only a handful of coaches in Vigneault’s class and, oddly, they all have jobs. Of course, maybe Aquilini has someone like Wayne Gretzky standing by to do for the Canucks what he did for the Phoenix Coyotes.

NO VIGNEAULT, NO GILLIS?: The summit between Gillis and the Aquilini family apparently won’t happen until at least next week. The longer the owners delay meeting with the GM, the more likely it seems they’re planning a shakeup.

And the more I think about Gillis’ unequivocal support of Vigneault, the more I believe the Aquilinis will have to find themselves a new general manager if they ask Gillis to fire his coach.

Gillis was named the NHL’s top GM last season, when Vigneault was nominated a third time for the Jack Adams Award — the coach-of-the-year trophy he won in 2007.

Well done kids.

[tantalum]

I think the Aquilini's did the right thing when removing Nonis from the job. I supported that move however it came about. Nonis wasn't ready to be GM (and may never be). Gillis has done a fine job. If they are going to react to every early playoff dismissal with major organizational changes it's going to be a long long time before we fans ever see a cup. The team disappointed and likely someone will be a fall guy but no way should everybody be a fall guy. There is no reason why they shouldn't be giving Gillis an extensions. At least IMO.

Geez Ken Holland would have been fired 3 times in the last decade if the Aquilinis were owners! Shero 3 times the last 6 years!

[Island Nucklehead]

Geez Ken Holland would have been fired 3 times in the last decade if the Aquilinis were owners! Shero 3 times the last 6 years!

Not sure if that's fair. Holland and Shero have cup rings. Shero had the balls to shit-can Therrien the season following a Finals appearance, turned out pretty well. Holland, well. Three Cups and four President's Trophies.

I don't think Gillis is on the hot seat. AV certainly is, and for good reason. Nobody was impressed with this teams' play down the stretch, and they pretty much admitted coasting into the playoffs. Whoops.

A first round, 5 game embarrassment is more than enough reason to shit-can the coach. His players weren't ready to play. He's been here six full seasons. The team has been past the second round once.

All that being said, I wouldn't be opposed to having him back, but there's gotta be some accountability for the disaster that was the 2012 playoffs.

A pipe dream would be the firing of Babcock in Detroit and seeing what he could do here... both teams might need that kind of shakeup.

[Jovocop]

Geez Ken Holland would have been fired 3 times in the last decade if the Aquilinis were owners! Shero 3 times the last 6 years!

Not sure if that's fair. Holland and Shero have cup rings. Shero had the balls to shit-can Therrien the season following a Finals appearance, turned out pretty well. Holland, well. Three Cups and four President's Trophies.

I don't think Gillis is on the hot seat. AV certainly is, and for good reason. Nobody was impressed with this teams' play down the stretch, and they pretty much admitted coasting into the playoffs. Whoops.

A first round, 5 game embarrassment is more than enough reason to shit-can the coach. His players weren't ready to play. He's been here six full seasons. The team has been past the second round once.

All that being said, I wouldn't be opposed to having him back, but there's gotta be some accountability for the disaster that was the 2012 playoffs.

A pipe dream would be the firing of Babcock in Detroit and seeing what he could do here... both teams might need that kind of shakeup.

Can the Canucks and the Wings trade coaches?? I would propose Babcock + a prospect + future consideration for AV + Rome + Raymond.

[Island Nucklehead]

Can the Canucks and the Wings trade coaches?? I would propose Babcock + a prospect + future consideration for AV + Rome + Raymond.

Wings get:
AV
a set of the Canucks' sleep watches.
Poison-proof cook book.

Canucks get:
Babcock
16 bronzed octopie.

[tantalum]

Not sure if that's fair. Holland and Shero have cup rings. Shero had the balls to shit-can Therrien the season following a Finals appearance, turned out pretty well. Holland, well. Three Cups and four President's Trophies.

I thought it was obvious I was exaggerating to some degree. However, it still makes little sense to even entertain removing GIllis as GM unless you have a serious disagreement on direction though I can't imagine the direction being anything but win the cup from both sides.

It would also be a mistake to not give GIllis a year or two extension. You can't leave him a lame duck GM like Burke was.

I don't think Gillis is on the hot seat. AV certainly is, and for good reason. Nobody was impressed with this teams' play down the stretch, and they pretty much admitted coasting into the playoffs. Whoops.

A first round, 5 game embarrassment is more than enough reason to shit-can the coach. His players weren't ready to play. He's been here six full seasons. The team has been past the second round once.

I don't disagree with this except for one situation....the players to a man own up to the failure and say they still have stuff to learn from AV. But I suspect AV may have worn out his welcome with the players which wouldn't be a shock.

Hey maybe the Preds can flame out and fire Trotz. I'd take no neck as a coach of the canucks!

[Eddy Punch Clock]

This just in... the answer is apparently yes.

TEAM1040:
Quote:
The @vancanucks have signed Alain Vigneault to a contract extension..back for a 7th year with the club.

[ODB]

This just in... the answer is apparently yes.

TEAM1040:
Quote:
The @vancanucks have signed Alain Vigneault to a contract extension..back for a 7th year with the club.

FML!!!