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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby CrzyCanuck on Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:22 pm

here's praying Chicago to go on 5 game losing streak and drop out of the playoff race.
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby okcanuck on Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:31 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:The problem here though is that Keith is a member of the NHLPA too. They have to protect his right to play. In the past the PA did not endorse long suspensions as it takes away a players ability to earn. So there is an inherent conflict of interest in this regard and asking the PA to take sides has not worked.

There is also an inherent conflict with the owners who do not want their players the ones being suspended.

For the system to work they need an outsider handing out the discipline. But it would never work so we are stuck with what we have.

I do wonder why all the fuss about an in person meeting etc when the suspension was capped at 5 games. A pretence of taking it seriously?

I suppose the bottom line was that the League felt it could not prove it was premeditated and intentional. Anyone who knows hockey knows it was but the league just backed off. But he did get 5 games and that is something. Maybe not enough to satisfy Canuck fans but I doubt any number of games would have truly satisfied us.



I disagree . Any number of games to me includes meaningfull games like the 1st round of playoffs.This would of satisfied me. The 5 regular season game suspension is a complete joke.
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby Calgary_Canuck on Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:32 pm

Daniel has a concussion, holy frak. This is totally not good.
Let's hope he can make it back for playoffs..otherwise............

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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby CrzyCanuck on Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:57 pm

Calgary_Canuck wrote:Daniel has a concussion, holy frak. This is totally not good.
Let's hope he can make it back for playoffs..otherwise............

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Naslund version 2? :cry:

This is like a hurrray for the Hawks. 5 games without Keith for a concussed Daniel? Heck of a deal.

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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby Blob Mckenzie on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:02 pm

I think we kinda kew he had a concussion. I don't think it a real serious one as i doubt he would have hopped a bird the next day.

I think they could have given Keith 7 or 8 but dude had no priors. I think the NHL should clamp down on garbage hits to the head but they are all over the fucking map with their suspensions , ie the rome and Wisnieuwski cases and this one. The inconsistency is the most frustrating part.
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby Meds on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:24 pm

I'm actually surprised they gave him the maximum without a face-to-face hearing. I was expecting 3 games, even though he deserved 10.

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but the Hawk's are 6 points ahead of Phoenix and would pretty much have to lose 7 straight games in order to drop out of the playoff picture. I do hope that happens, but the odds are beyond thin.

Daniel's probably going to sit the rest of the year out, if he returns before the playoffs it will be in the last game.
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby SonofaBure on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:25 pm

okcanuck wrote:What a f---ing joke. Shanahan just blew whatever chance he had to eliminate premeditated head shots in the NHL.

$ 250,000 bounty for another teams top goal scorer. I wonder if theres anyway the Shithawkes can be trusted not to pay Kieth`s salary during the 5 games. I doubt it.


Are you suggesting the Shithawks had a bounty out on Danny?

....nevermind, I see what you're saying.
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby Zamboni Driver on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:29 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:I think we kinda kew he had a concussion. I don't think it a real serious one as i doubt he would have hopped a bird the next day.

I think they could have given Keith 7 or 8 but dude had no priors. I think the NHL should clamp down on garbage hits to the head but they are all over the fucking map with their suspensions , ie the rome and Wisnieuwski cases and this one. The inconsistency is the most frustrating part.


Maybe it's time to have longer suspensions for "deliberate intent to injure" like this elbow, or the Rene Borque hit on Backstrom.
The player should sit out x number of games OR UNTIL INJURED PLAYER COMES BACK.

Cheap shot elbow, clip or head shot? You could sit out UNLIMITED games until other player returns.

Suppose Danny's concussion turns him into the next Crosby, and he's gone 12 or 18 months? Then 5 games will look like a f**kin' joke. :mad:
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby SonofaBure on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:41 pm

When Crosby got a concussion nobody thought he'll take this long to come back. Everybody thought Towes would only be out a game or two with his concussion, but it's going on two weeks now.

You can't really set a time table for a concussion, which is scary. What I'm trying to say is it's impossible to speculate now how long DS will be out.
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby SonofaBure on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:51 pm

Does anyone know where this suspension falls as far as first-time affenders? Regarding number of games??
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby okcanuck on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:58 pm

SonofaBure wrote:Does anyone know where this suspension falls as far as first-time affenders? Regarding number of games??



Why? What difference does it make? It was a vicious premeditated hit and it deserves more than 5 games. End of story? Any questions?
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby dbr on Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:06 pm

Not too surprised about the suspension. As Topper mentioned when you consider the suspensions being handed out by the league this was a relatively stiff one, and rightfully so.

It's unfortunate that the 'repeat offender' tag is so narrowly defined, as Shanny specifically described Keith as a player with no priors when in fact he is a player the previous sheriff did not see fit to suspend (for a retaliatory elbow to the head on Matt Cooke).

Anyway at the end of the day I don't think the league was going to set a new precedent by suspending arguably the best player on an original six franchise at the end of the regular season (precedent setting suspensions are for teams like the Blue Jackets or the Canucks) and no amount of time off for Keith is going to speed up Daniel's recovery.. which is the only thing that really matters in all this for the Canucks.

Although I would now like to see a first round matchup in which the Canucks tenderize Keith and his teammates. :evil:

SonofaBure wrote:When Crosby got a concussion nobody thought he'll take this long to come back. Everybody thought Towes would only be out a game or two with his concussion, but it's going on two weeks now.


Crosby was on his second hit to the head in a week (like Willie Mitchell as I pointed out earlier).

Toews was fucking driving during his 'recovery' and the Blackhawks still won't call it a concussion :lol: - I wouldn't assume his injury has been managed all that well given that team's track record.

You can't really set a time table for a concussion, which is scary.


Yes - anything is possible.

What I'm trying to say is it's impossible to speculate now how long DS will be out.


Of course, I totally agree - right now it is an unknown. But that means that while it could be like David Perron (who missed what, a year) it could also be like Dan Hamhuis (who suffered his fourth or fifth career concussion last year and only missed five games).

We just don't know so assuming the worst is premature at this point.
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby mr perfect on Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:25 pm

Blob's right, if the concussion was severe, they wouldn't have let Daniel fly home.

Sit out Daniel Sedin for the rest of the season. The Canucks are good enough to win the first round of the playoffs without him, I just hope he's ready for round 2.
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby Fred on Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:03 pm

mr perfect wrote:Blob's right, if the concussion was severe, they wouldn't have let Daniel fly home.

Sit out Daniel Sedin for the rest of the season. The Canucks are good enough to win the first round of the playoffs without him, I just hope he's ready for round 2.



Crosby flew to LA and various other cities to visit different specialists and flew home to Halifax to......so it's not impossible
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Re: The Sedin & Keith Affair

Postby dhabums on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:12 am

KeyserSoze wrote:Shanny cannot really "make an example" of Keith at this point of the season...especially when a similar elbow in Jan landed Bourque the same 5 game suspension.


I fail to see any comparables between Bourque and Keith. In fact, other than the injury, they are miles apart.
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