The Sedin & Keith Affair

[Rayxor]

Wanna get your blood boiling boyz...

Read this...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-keith-acts-like-a-canuck-20120322,0,1014138.column

EXCERPT: And then Keith turned stupid. Then he became a Canuck. Then he sunk to Vancouver’s gutless, cheap-shot levels. He should know better. All the Hawks should.

Friends don’t let friends act like Canucks.

"Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favourable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side. (...) The receptive powers of the masses are very restricted, and their understanding is feeble. On the other hand, they quickly forget. Such being the case, all effective propaganda must be confined to a few bare essentials and those must be expressed as far as possible in stereotyped formulas. These slogans should be persistently repeated until the very last individual has come to grasp the idea that has been put forward. (...) Every change that is made in the subject of a propagandist message must always emphasize the same conclusion. The leading slogan must of course be illustrated in many ways and from several angles, but in the end one must always return to the assertion of the same formula."

[Badfish]

Rats.... all the media coverage, instant replays, numerous articles breaking down the play, motivations and history... you can't find the info?
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=daniel+sedin+duncan+keith+hit
www.canucks.com
www.tsn.com

Just a thought

[Arachnid]

Does anyone else think it was funny that the refs clearly tried to control the scrums/game by calling single penalties early on...setting the tone if you will...but then do the complete opposite by calling only 2 mins on Keith. The easier and more correct call to make would have been 5 and a game...problem solved.

There have been 12 suspensions for head shots this year. In order of occurence, the number of games suspended were as follows: 12, 2 , 8, 3, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3

Some of them were definately hockey plays gone wrong.

Others were not hockey plays at all, and were clear attempts to injure. Kaleta ramming his helmet into a guys face only gets 4 games? Bourque's flying elbow gets only 5? How many will Keith get...3-5?

It's bullshit. 5 games is not long enough of a suspension for non-hockey type hits to the head that can easily be removed from the game.

Keith will likely get 5 games max, but IMO plays like this, Bourques, and Kaleta's should be in and around 10.

OK then I predict no more than 8, no less than 5. I really don't think he'll do 10. Considering Daniel hit him 6 mins earlier and he's a first offender...

It doesn't matter if it is his first suspension, the message is NO intended targeting of concussing a head.
Whether it's your first or last time.

[Uncle dans leg]

I'm thinking Keith gets more than 5 games, likely 6-7. I am pretty sure the hockey world is unanimous in condemning the hit and would be suprised to see a slap on the wrist here. This is exactly the type of play the league is looking to eliminate.

I also think Daniel gets a single game to send a message as well. Shanny hasn't scheduled a hearing yet which tells me he wants to hear how bad Daniel is hurt. I actually like this.

I would like to see something done about the officials and their apparent inability to discern between what constitutes a deliberate act to injure and a minor for elbowing. How the hell did the ref not see this for what it is?

[Hockey Widow]

From what I read the League has told Chicago that there will be a disciplinary meeting held once they get a clearer view on Sedin's condition. Chicago does not play again until Sunday so the League has a few extra days to get this right. To me this means 1) the suspension will be at least 5 games and 2) if Sedin has a concussion or broken jaw as some suspect, the suspension will be longer.

As for the length of suspension being partly contingent upon the absence or presence of an injury I am OK with this. What I was so opposed to historically is that the injuries always coloured the length of suspensions but the league denied it saying injuries had no bearing. It was the hypocrisy that drove me nuts. At least Shanny has the guts to come right out with it, if it is suspension worthy you will get a suspension but if it causes serious or significant injury you will get more.

The biggest thing with this play though is not the hit nor the injury but the premeditated intent to cause the injury. That is what to me deserves a serious suspension along the lines of the rest of the season including playoffs. It won't happen, I suspect 5-6 games, but if any hit deserves it, it is this one.

As to the Canucks response, well I didn't see the game so I can't comment other than to say I don't want a Canuck player taking a retaliatory penalty that results in further suspension. It would have been nice to get Keith man-o-man with Kassian or Bieksa and let it go at that. Reminds me of the Moore hit that the Canucks wanted to pay back and it cost them dearly, well it cost Moore a little too. I honestly think keith was embarrassed that a chicken Swede sister hit him so hard.

[lifer]

Thanks for posting the link, DonLever

That elbow makes my blood boil. Deliberate atttempt to injure and a 2 min. penalty. Keith won't drop the gloves. No Canuck exacts revenge on Keith during the rest of the game. I thought we were supposed to be a tougher team after the deadline? This reminds me a lot of the Naslund / Moore affair. An opposing player takes out our leading goal scorer with a blatant attempt to injure.

I don't really care too much about the length of suspension to Keith. What I want is someone in a Canuck jersey to injure Keith, or Hossa, or Toews. It doesn't matter which one, just do it and take the suspension. Except this time please don't let it be someone with the offencive skill of Bertuzzi.

An Art Ross trophy winner, our leading goal scorer, and sportsman like player like Daniel does not deserve this one bit. And he throws a clean body check in the corner with his shoulder and the media jumps all over him. That was probably the hardest hit he has ever thrown in his entire carreer and he is vilified for it...unbelievable.

10+ games for Keith. Anything less and I'll be even more pissed. Get well Daniel, we all hope it isn't too serious. Naslund wasn't the same player after the Moore hit. We all better hope the same doesn't happen to Daniel.

[rats19]

Rats.... all the media coverage, instant replays, numerous articles breaking down the play, motivations and history... you can't find the info?
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=daniel+sedin+duncan+keith+hit
http://www.canucks.com
http://www.tsn.com

Just a thought

Thanks for thinking of me badfish...I am a man on a phone..no tv......no internet...no nothing...in a state of flux..moving again this weekend to another temporary location.. sometime in june I should be settled enough to order my very own technology....cut a brother a little slack..

[tantalum]

Wanna get your blood boiling boyz...

Read this...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-keith-acts-like-a-canuck-20120322,0,1014138.column

EXCERPT: And then Keith turned stupid. Then he became a Canuck. Then he sunk to Vancouver’s gutless, cheap-shot levels. He should know better. All the Hawks should.

Friends don’t let friends act like Canucks.

Doesn't get my blood boiling at all. I've long known that hawk fans and media are delusional and simply ignore the Eager's and Burrish's and Carcillo's the team employs.

[donlever]

Doesn't get my blood boiling at all. I've long known that hawk fans and media are delusional and simply ignore the Eager's and Burrish's and Carcillo's the team employs.

Yes tant, it was just a little hyperbole offered up to introduce a stupid article from a stupid writer.

Surely you've seen me post enough over the years....

[tantalum]

Sure but sometimes I'm tired and slow in the head. And I'm also getting old.....


Bob McKenzie is anticipating a phone hearing which means no more than 5 games. If a deliberate attempt to injure doesn't call for an in person hearing I have no idea what does.

[Fred]

A strong response to the Keith hit from Kerry Fraser

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/kerry_fraser/?id=391084

[donlever]

Frasers article already posted in the thread Fred.

Yeah I heard earlier it was a phone hearing, so max 5 games tant.

I agree with your assessment however.

Pierre LeBrun figures 2-3 games.

It means dick all to the Canucks either way regardless.

[dbr]

A strong response to the Keith hit from Kerry Fraser

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/kerry_fraser/?id=391084

Thanks for keeping up

Edit: Augh, out 'keep upped' by donnie..

[ESQ]

As for the length of suspension being partly contingent upon the absence or presence of an injury I am OK with this. What I was so opposed to historically is that the injuries always coloured the length of suspensions but the league denied it saying injuries had no bearing. It was the hypocrisy that drove me nuts. At least Shanny has the guts to come right out with it, if it is suspension worthy you will get a suspension but if it causes serious or significant injury you will get more.

I agree, and the extent of the injury should be taken into account.

Take Kesler's clip the other night - yes it was clearly clipping, but the fact that Clutterbuck wasn't hurt shows that it was accidental/incidental, and Kesler actually tried to slow up and not hit him below the knees. With Torres' hit on Seabrook, notwithstanding that it wasn't a blindside hit, the fact that Seabrook was walking at all shows that Raffi let up, because Seabrook was so vulnerable Torres could have killed him. Compare that to Marchand's hit, where his malicious intent to injure is reflected by his success in taking out Salo.

It also used to drive me nuts that the league wouldn't consider the seriousness of the injury, because they do it all the time on high-sticking calls.

[donlever]

Edit: Augh, out 'keep upped' by donnie..

As usual I was nicer about it as well....