Mondi wrote: *Edit: I see you said over the past three playoffs while noting the stats from the past 4. However, I think my point still stand.*
Well, most of it, I guess, but I will revisit the numbers just to clear things out.
Mondi wrote: First, why would you discount the Boston series? If you're on the ice you're fit to play, no excuses. Right? RIGHT?! Well, may be not. But going from 1.25 ppg in the season to less than .7 ppg in the finals isn't exactly stepping up.
I didn't discount it. I just wanted to point out that the drop in production could almost exclusively be attributed to that seven game series, and as we know, Henrik was playing injured, and then showed what the numbers would be without that series. I then pointed out that they of course needed to produce against Boston as well.
Mondi wrote: Further, they have not averaged "roughly a point per game". Not even close really.
GP 59 PTS 46
GP 59 PTS 49
You're looking at the entire post-lockout production, including their fairly poor 06/07 effort. I specifically said "the last three" playoffs, and in that period Henrik has had 46 points in 47 games (0.98 ppg) and Daniel 44 in 47 (0.94 ppg). Take away Boston (which we shouldn't) and Henrik has 45 points in 40 games (1.1 ppg) and Daniel 40 in 40 (you do the math).
In 08/09 both players were exactly at 1 ppg. In 09/10 they were both above 1 ppg, in 10/11 they were just below 1 ppg (Henrik 0.9, Daniel 0.8). In 06/07 they were nowhere near the players they are today, I just included those numbers to show the entire post-lockout situation.
These are imho excellent playoff numbers, except for the final series against Boston, when Henrik was injured and the refs thought it was OK to use Art Ross winners as punching bags without spending time in the penalty box.
Mondi wrote: I'm a HUGE fan of the Twins, but they are not big time playoff performers. They contribute. They don't necessarily harm the team. But they are not the same players in the playoff as they are in the regular season.
With that being said, this a new year and I will go into the playoffs hoping they can do what they have never done, dominate teams for an entire series. Of course no one on the Canucks, save Kesler, has shown the ability to do that (remember Samuelsson).
I take it San Jose Doesn't count?
Mondi wrote:And, lets be serious. Gretzky in his prime is more than just one notch higher than the brothers.
Sedins --> Sakic/Forsberg --> Crosby --> Gretzky/Lemieux
Great company, but not quite on the level.
I've been really positive and upbeat about this team's struggles until last night. Getting shut out by the Wild (sans Backstrom and Koivu), is frigging pathetic. This team needs to start showing signs or they are going no where fast.
Cory was 9-0-1 in his last 10, so he was due for a loss. But, the rest of the guys need to start showing up. I'm a firm believer in slumps as a result of natural ebbs and flows of sports as well as there result of fatigue, injuries and lack of confidence (I completely reject ridiculous claims about arrogance or lack of effort). I am also a firm believer that one good game can change those trends overnight. But, I do not believe in this so call "switch" it just doesn't exist in sports. The only way out of a slump is through good habits and hard work, and then some breaks. 10 games to get it going. Lets freaking go boys.