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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:10 am

Reefer2 wrote:When the deal was done I said I did not like it, maybe in the off season but not now. Kassian was not going to bring anything to the team this season to help them win the SC. I said that CH scoring was more important as it takes pressue of the top 2 lines and I was told secondary scoring was a luxury. Thinking Kassian may help in 2 - 3 years is bad planning, this team needs to win now and go for it. They have a short window of opportunity and just look no further that SJ on how easily a team can fall.

I am not in the locker room so I don't know the truth about what CH and/or his agent really asked for or how they acted with MG but somehow I feel AV had something to do with this deal happening at the time it did. One problem this team has (and still does) are the tough guys who can hit hard and fight when needed, last season with Glass and who ever else was on the 4th line they never did anything to help the team win against Boston.

This year if the Nucks come up against a team like Bos I do not see Kassian at 21 being the answer but CH may chip in a few goals that would help. I will stand by my belief that the deal was bad for this team at the time it was made.


Exactly

I like Zack Kassian, but you don't trade a young skilled centre who was helping pick up the slack in creating offense, for a project parked down on the 4th line. I thought we were suppose to be trying to win the cup now?

This trade has done diddly squat to stop teams from picking on the Sedins. Even if Gillis had picked up Ott, Moen and Staubitz it still would do fuck all to stop teams from taking liberty on the Sedins. The Sedins are effective when the offense is spead out, now it's not. All the CoHo trade did was make it easier for teams to shut down our skill cause we now have less of it. I just don't get the trade. We now have no 3rd line but 3 Shut Down lines like Botch said and is all excited about.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:22 am

Reefer2 wrote:This year if the Nucks come up against a team like Bos I do not see Kassian at 21 being the answer but CH may chip in a few goals that would help.


CoHo was the answer, remember the game in Boston this year, that beauty of a goal he scored on Thomas. People seem to forget that the real reason we lost to the Bruins was that 3/4's of the team had some sort of injury going on, we were a lame duck by the time we got to the finals. We all saw this season what a healthy Vancouver Canuck team can do against the Bruins.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:30 am

RoyalDude wrote:
CoHo was the answer, remember the game in Boston this year, that beauty of a goal he scored on Thomas. People seem to forget that the real reason we lost to the Bruins was that 3/4's of the team had some sort of injury going on, we were a lame duck by the time we got to the finals. We all saw this season what a healthy Vancouver Canuck team can do against the Bruins.


Yeah Cody is the answer all right. When the games get tough he lights it up . What is it three points in 20 now ?


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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Arachnid » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:52 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
CoHo was the answer, remember the game in Boston this year, that beauty of a goal he scored on Thomas. People seem to forget that the real reason we lost to the Bruins was that 3/4's of the team had some sort of injury going on, we were a lame duck by the time we got to the finals. We all saw this season what a healthy Vancouver Canuck team can do against the Bruins.


Yeah Cody is the answer all right. When the games get tough he lights it up . What is it three points in 20 now ?


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-1 again last night :o Kickassian was awesome last night and his +/- was OK too 8-)
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby RoyalDude » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:03 am

Arachnid wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
CoHo was the answer, remember the game in Boston this year, that beauty of a goal he scored on Thomas. People seem to forget that the real reason we lost to the Bruins was that 3/4's of the team had some sort of injury going on, we were a lame duck by the time we got to the finals. We all saw this season what a healthy Vancouver Canuck team can do against the Bruins.


Yeah Cody is the answer all right. When the games get tough he lights it up . What is it three points in 20 now ?


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-1 again last night :o Kickassian was awesome last night and his +/- was OK too 8-)


Funny thing is though, the Sabres seem to be winning since the trade and we just kinda sucking. Well, we've been kinda sucking for awhile cause our offense has completely dried up. We can't seem to take teams to OT like we did there for awhile, we just seem to be digressing with each game, especially offensively which makes all the sense more to trade away a a skilled playmaking centre with a great shot who added secondary scoring from the 3rd line and replace him with the great shut downess of Sami Pahlsson.

Kickassian was awesome last night? All 8 minutes of him and a beat down by Staubitz? C'mon Spidey

Cody Hodgson last night - 21:48
Zack Kassian last night - 8:06
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Arachnid » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:13 am

RoyalDude wrote:
Arachnid wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
CoHo was the answer, remember the game in Boston this year, that beauty of a goal he scored on Thomas. People seem to forget that the real reason we lost to the Bruins was that 3/4's of the team had some sort of injury going on, we were a lame duck by the time we got to the finals. We all saw this season what a healthy Vancouver Canuck team can do against the Bruins.


-1 again last night :o Kickassian was awesome last night and his +/- was OK too 8-)


Funny thing is though, the Sabres seem to be winning since the trade and we just kinda sucking.

Kickassian was awesome last night? All 8 minutes of him and a beat down by Staubitz? C'mon Spidey

Cody Hodgson last night - 21:48
Zack Kassian last night - 8:06


Dude, Sabres haven't won all there games since the trade, and CoHo has been -3 and zero points in the last 3 games...for a 2nd line centre? Don't compare Zugly with CoHo compare him to Kesler who has been great in the past couple of games...

Buttaflo isn't even in the playoffs and are desperate to make it...we are in and seeded nicely...they are coasting is all (read my Habs GDT post)...

Can't wait for the first round....ummmmm did you stop smoking pot Dude? :blush:
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Strangelove » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:12 pm

RoyalDude wrote:Cody Hodgson last night - 21:48
Zack Kassian last night - 8:06


And yet they put up the same amount of points! :thumbs:

At least Kassian delivered 3 thunderous hits... and went toe to toe with Staubitz.

Cody with ZERO points and minus 4 in 6 games with Buffalo since the trade despite gobs of icetime! :lol:

BTW which are these 3 shutdown lines to which you refer? :mex:
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby tantalum » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:34 pm

Cody...SHUTDOWN center. 0 pts in 7 games for the Sabres (0 in 9 overall, 1 in 13).

The Sabres broadcast said it best yesterday when they said with the Vanek injury Hodgson is going to get a great chance but if he can't produce he is going to be moved down the lineup in a hurry.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Reefer2 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:56 pm

My post is not CH against Kassian, they are 2 different players and both make the Nucks a better team. This is about the Nucks lack of scoring and that CH on a third line that seemed to be doing some scoring when it was needed.

Wait - did RD just agree with me??? :shock:
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby ESQ » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:19 am

Cody Hodgson was never going to fix whatever is ailing the Sedins.

The Sedins are two of the best players in the league, if they're slumping there's not much an 11-minute rookie can do about it.

Of course the Sedins aren't the only ones struggling, and unless Cody was setting up goals on all three top lines, making Kesler pass the puck, plus fixing Edler's current malaise, he wasn't going to fix the problems this team is facing right now.

This little stretch really just shows us that the Sedins are the straw that stirs the drink on the Canucks. If they dissappear for a game or two, the team is deep enough to win. If they disappear for 7-8 games, we're in trouble. Given that Vigneault hasn't changed their line, even though that worked with the brief Bitz experiment, I'm lead to believe that there is something physically wrong with them and hopefully the couple days off will help.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Benjo » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:47 am

Who gives a crap about the stretch drive at this point. The boys have locked up first or 2nd in the conference and basically have admitted to not giving a flying fuck about the last 15 games. The only result that I care about from the next 15 games is any potential injuries that may come from them. Do you recall last season when they stunk out the joint in the last few games last season? It's going to be even worse than last season now that they've been to the finals. They WILL turn it on for game 1 of the playoffs I guarantee it, game 1 from the Chicago series was lights out for the boys, one of the best games I've seen them play.

I can't believe Dave Hodge on TSN today asking if they should let even more teams into the playoffs. If they do that they may as well flush the regular season down the toilet because it won't matter one bit.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby clem » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:20 pm

Benjo wrote:...
I can't believe Dave Hodge on TSN today asking if they should let even more teams into the playoffs. If they do that they may as well flush the regular season down the toilet because it won't matter one bit.

The playoffs are already too long. They interfere with outdoor fun.

BBQ season started Mar 02/03 in the S. interior, the first boats are on the water, & there’s still a month of regular season hockey to go.

The longer the playoffs run, the more they look like a cynical money grab.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Arachnid » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:49 pm

clem wrote:
Benjo wrote:...
I can't believe Dave Hodge on TSN today asking if they should let even more teams into the playoffs. If they do that they may as well flush the regular season down the toilet because it won't matter one bit.

The playoffs are already too long. They interfere with outdoor fun.

BBQ season started Mar 02/03 in the S. interior, the first boats are on the water, & there’s still a month of regular season hockey to go.

The longer the playoffs run, the more they look like a cynical money grab.


Shorten the pre-season and regular season...buncha money grubbing capitalists! :evil:
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby ESQ » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:23 pm

Benjo wrote:Who gives a crap about the stretch drive at this point. The boys have locked up first or 2nd in the conference and basically have admitted to not giving a flying fuck about the last 15 games.

I am actually extremely concerned about seeding this year. Detroit and St. Louis are both very different teams on the road then at home. Also, the path to the Western Conference Final will likely be easier for the #1 seed - if #6 (Chicago) upsets #3 (crappy Pacific leader) and #5 upsets #4, you're facing the 8th seed then Chicago, as opposed to the 7th seed and either St. Louis, Detroit, or Nashville.

If there are no upsets, you'd be better off as 2nd seed (play 7th seed, then 3rd seed), but there's sure to be at least 1 upset.

That being said, this is the worst stretch of play for the Canucks, all teams go through them and they'll eventually come out of it. St. Louis is still on a hot streak and only a few points ahead of the Canucks, if the streaks reverse the Canucks could very well catch up.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Postby Arachnid » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:32 pm

Cody's team won and they are closer to the playoffs but he was -1 and no points...not that there's anything wrong with that... 8-)
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