Trade Deadline Discussion

[Canuck-One]

A few names for discussion. I would be happy with any of the D or forwards. Preferrably one of each.

Defense

Andrew MacDonald – Islanders – Solid shutdown D

Robyn Regehr – Buffalo – Physical shutdown D

Bryan Allen – Carolina – Physical D with decent mobility – plays a shutdown role

Sheldon Souray – Dallas – One huge cannon of a shot. Great on the PP – very physical

Toni Lydman – Anaheim – Great skater who plays a sound D

Ladislav Smid – Edmonton - Good at defending opposing scorers. Has a bit of a mean streak.

Forward

Paul Gaustad – Buffalo – Great at faceoffs, good defensively and very physical, Plays C/W

Adam Burish – Dallas – Great agitator and energy guy for the 4th line

Teemu Selanne – Anaheim – What can I say…

Derek Dorsett – Quality agitator and banger for the 4th line

[Potatoe1]

Kubina to Philly for a 2nd and 5th.

Hmm, I think I would have done that.

Kubina would have been a nice fit here. a 3rd pairing guy that could move up if/when Salo gets hurt. I dont see a better RHD being available for a second or less.

[Strangelove]

RD the difference this year is Gillis could conceivably offer up Schneids + Raymond + picks.

But yeah the fantasizing has gotten somewot out of control.

You and Toppy had best stay outta this thread.

[Canuck-One]

Kubina to Philly for a 2nd and 5th.

Hmm, I think I would have done that.

Kubina would have been a nice fit here. a 3rd pairing guy that could move up if/when Salo gets hurt. I dont see a better RHD being available for a second or less.

I agree that Kubina would have been a decent fit. He has the tools but for a big man he does play a soft game.

[rats19]

RD the difference this year is Gillis could conceivably offer up Schneids + Raymond + picks.

But yeah the fantasizing has gotten somewot out of control.

You and Toppy had best stay outta this thread.

Lest we get brought down to ......oit

[tantalum]

Kubina to Philly for a 2nd and 5th.

Hmm, I think I would have done that.

Kubina would have been a nice fit here. a 3rd pairing guy that could move up if/when Salo gets hurt. I dont see a better RHD being available for a second or less.

Kubina has a limited NTC where at the beginning of the year he can designate 10 teams he would go to. Wouldn't be a shock if the large majority of those teams were in the east. But yeah it's a good price to pay for the FLyers.

[Tiger]

Selanne ..basically a rental *though the way he has been playing might play till he's 50 but would be a great addition to the second line. for Raymond? drip Higgins to the 3rd line.. and gives injury insurance.
Aucoin .. for a second? A solid dman ... UFA at end of year..

[BladesofSteel]

Selanne would be such a huge addition to this club. Highly skilled, speedy, two-way presence, team guy, character, integrity, cup experience etc. etc. etc.

A package surrounding Raymond could work, so long as Selanne would allow the deal.

Raymond + 1st for Selanne + 2nd?

[Jovocop]

Selanne would be such a huge addition to this club. Highly skilled, speedy, two-way presence, team guy, character, integrity, cup experience etc. etc. etc.

A package surrounding Raymond could work, so long as Selanne would allow the deal.

Raymond + 1st for Selanne + 2nd?

The Canucks 1st is pretty much the same as the Ducks 2nd. Unfortunately, I am not sure whether Selanne is one of those "loyal" players that would not want to win a cup with another team, especially with the Canucks.

[coco_canuck]

The Jackets are serious about putting guys on the block but it doesn't seem like they are serious about actually making deals.

As it has been reported, the best time to trade Nash will be the summer. I agree with Bobby Mac, that in the summer teams like Vancouver and Detroit might be interested depending on what happens in the playoffs, and simply, there will be more suitors and less cap constraints with the 10% cushion and two months to figure things out.

I think Howson is playing the it right at the moment by asking for the sky. There's no pressure to move Nash right away, but maybe just maybe there will be a team desperate enough by the deadline to give Howson what he wants. I still think it's unlikely anyone meets Howson's current asking price, but it's the right play to ask for the moon at this moment.

[Zamboni Driver]

Of course this team goes where the core takes it, but stating guys like Lappy and Higgins had no real impact on the teams success last year isn't entirely fair. Without them we don't have that success.

I agree with you about the moves Gillis is likely to make, he's not going to drastically change the structure of the team at the deadline. Those are off-season moves, but they still elicit the strongest opinions and reactions from fans and media alike. Which is why those rumours become such a hot topic.

But additional role players that can potentially push this team over the top is what Gillis should be looking for. He found a couple last year and likely has his sites on a few this year. These are the types of guys you get for 2nd and 3rd rounders, and we shouldn't be giving up much more.A couple players like Lappy or Higgins is all we should expect and what we can hope for. Likely one on the back-end and one up front.

I`m confident Gillis can get what he feels is required and without over paying for `rentals`. He proved that last year as neither had no impact and neither were rentals.

I agree, we're more likely to see a deal for "parts", not some big ticket player.
This trade talk about Nash has just gotten plain stupid, Hodgson & Schneider + picks + parts for Nash.
Nash has 66 & 67 points the last 2 years, and is now on pace for about 55 this year. Cody Hodgson will be in that range the next couple of years (or better)
That's Alex Burrows numbers with four times the price tag.

Could he (possibly) do very well playing with the Sedin's? sure.
He could also be the next Gomez or Drury or Redden, with a huge cap hit, and a bunch of years left like an albatross.
We don't have the cap space anyways, and with the new agreement (and lower % for players) the cap might not go up next year.
IIRC the Canucks have a million or two in cap space now, with 13 forwards & 7 D. Even if they dropped Ballard's contract, they still need another D man (Is Alberts ever going to be more than a 7th D?)
Rome will want another 700 or 800k, and Schneider will need a couple million.

A few names for discussion. I would be happy with any of the D or forwards. Preferrably one of each.
Defense
Andrew MacDonald – Islanders – Solid shutdown D - $0.5 mil 1 yr left
Robyn Regehr – Buffalo – Physical shutdown D - $4 mil - 1 yr left
Bryan Allen – Carolina – Physical D with decent mobility – plays a shutdown role - $2.9 mil UFA
Sheldon Souray – Dallas – One huge cannon of a shot. Great on the PP – very physical - $1.6 mil UFA
Toni Lydman – Anaheim – Great skater who plays a sound D $3.0 mil - 1 yr left
Ladislav Smid – Edmonton - Good at defending opposing scorers. - $2.5 mil 1 yr left
Forward

The problem is that if you want to get someone with year(s) of contract left, the other team wants something significant back.
GMMG is more likely to do the same as before, look for "rental" players with expiring contracts, then try it out, if it works then re-sign him
He might have been looking at Kubina, but I guess the price was too high - a 2nd, a 5th & a prospect

What about Kostytsin from Montreal?
He's up at the end of the year, won't be resigning with Montreal, and they might let him go cheap.
Some 2nd/3rd line depth in case of injury.
If he looks good as a Canuck, resign him in the $3 million range, if not then it's goodbye

[Blob Mckenzie]

Ladd heard that Luongo was furious with RK after his comments in the Olympics.

I thought that was pretty widely reported afterwards by insiders?

I guess what I meant to say was that he was angry with Kesler for quite a while. It wasn't a couple days or anything, more like a few months and he obviously didn't keep it much of a secret either. I was pissed at Kesler myself when he said it as I didn't see the need to say it and the smarmy look he had on his face just made him look like more of a prick. I got the tongue in cheek with the "we hate Canada" comment but still..... why say it?

I have a bit of a problem with Kesler and the way he handles things and the way he always seems to insert his earthpad into his mouth. I was horrified to see his post game interview after the Predators series when they asked him what Barry Trotz said to him during the post series handshake. He is turning 28 this year. Time to grow up.

[RoyalDude]

Selanne would be such a huge addition to this club. Highly skilled, speedy, two-way presence, team guy, character, integrity, cup experience etc. etc. etc.

A package surrounding Raymond could work, so long as Selanne would allow the deal.

Raymond + 1st for Selanne + 2nd?

This doesn't strike me as a deal that Gillis would do but more what Raymond trader campaigners would do. Yes, Selanne is playing well right now, but Gillis isn't to fond of bringing in the old timers, it's his mantra. He likes players in that 27 years of age range. Also, not too smart to swap in an old timer for a cheap young guy who is quite serviceable at both ends of the arena when you factor in the ridiculous travel and the pounding the Nucks get from it come the playoffs, I mean did we not see the damage we'd taken by the time we reached the Finals. Is getting a 40 year old wise if we are priming ourselves for another long hard journey in the playoffs? I doubt it. Plus, I'm more concerned about our back end than our forwards. We may need a fall back plan if Salo goes down which be a colossal disaster for us since we all know how different this team is with Salo in the line-up to him being out. I like the idea of Bryan Allen in Carolina, big tough, fairly mobile great in both ends of the ice and is familiar with this team and city.

I just find it hilarious the constant trade ideas here surrounding Raymond when Gillis has let it be known to everyone that Raymond ain't going anywhere. The only player he has slightly hinted at moving at the right price is Schneider. Seriously, Raymond's salary is cheap, he plays well with Kesler, great wheels, young, excellent defensively, one of the best stick handlers on the team. I think some of you need to realize that Raymond is a playmaking winger in the mold of Paul Kariya, and not your typical drive to the net shooter type winger, and...what is so wrong with that? The kid has chemistry with Kesler, can skate with him and seems to not mind being the set up guy for that line. You have two shooters on that line already, Raymond actually is a great fit on that line. He can skate with them and likes to create plays for his mates. At Raymonds salary, age, and ability to play in all situations makes him quite valuable to this team. But, hey keep dreaming up trade scenarios, they are amusing to say the least.

[BladesofSteel]

Yes, Selanne is playing well right now, but Gillis isn't to fond of bringing in the old timers, it's his mantra. He likes players in that 27 years of age range.

How old was Mats when he received a contract offer from Gillis? Demitra?

Selanne does indeed give this club a more competitive edge than Mason Raymond.

[Zamboni Driver]

Yes, Selanne is playing well right now, but Gillis isn't to fond of bringing in the old timers, it's his mantra. He likes players in that 27 years of age range.

How old was Mats when he received a contract offer from Gillis? Demitra?

Selanne does indeed give this club a more competitive edge than Mason Raymond.

Difference is: Gillis gave up nothing to get Mats or Demitra, it was a $4 or $5 million gamble, but we didn't lose any players.