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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby Hockeylover44 on Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:55 am

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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby Jovocop on Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:09 am

Hockeylover44 wrote:After losing to the Flames which I think have a great shot at making the playoffs, I think we should trade Schnieder because his stock is at an all time high and get some better forwards.


Are you suggesting to trade Schneider because we lost to the Flames in the SO?? :lol:
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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby okcanuck on Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:49 am

Hockeylover44 wrote:After losing to the Flames which I think have a great shot at making the playoffs, I think we should trade Schnieder because his stock is at an all time high and get some better forwards.



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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby Blob Mckenzie on Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:14 pm

Mondi wrote:Sedins are Art Ross/Hart Caliber players, Suter and Weber never will be.

Suter and Weber are more like Naslund and Bertuzzi, two excellent players. But not superstars.



IMHO a Norris trophy winner is just as important as a Hart trophy winner. Suter and Weber are both elite D-men......easily top 10 in the league and they are both capable of winning a Norris and in Weber's case because he is the more flamboyant player , potentially a Hart if he lands on a team that can fill the net.

The twins are top 10 forwards in the game while the beasts of Nashville are top 10 D-men. If the preds offered Suter and Weber for the twins would you make the deal ? I know I would and I love the twins.
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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby Hockey Widow on Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:41 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Mondi wrote:Sedins are Art Ross/Hart Caliber players, Suter and Weber never will be.

Suter and Weber are more like Naslund and Bertuzzi, two excellent players. But not superstars.



IMHO a Norris trophy winner is just as important as a Hart trophy winner. Suter and Weber are both elite D-men......easily top 10 in the league and they are both capable of winning a Norris and in Weber's case because he is the more flamboyant player , potentially a Hart if he lands on a team that can fill the net.

The twins are top 10 forwards in the game while the beasts of Nashville are top 10 D-men. If the preds offered Suter and Weber for the twins would you make the deal ? I know I would and I love the twins.



OMG what a choice. At first blush I say no way then I think about it and I say yes. Age alone makes this a good move. I have no idea how we would score goals but I guess kesler and Hodgson would both move up a line and we'd see if the kids on the farm are ready. Too bad we have all these NTC to worry about . :D
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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby Potatoe1 on Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:49 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:

OMG what a choice. At first blush I say no way then I think about it and I say yes. Age alone makes this a good move. I have no idea how we would score goals but I guess kesler and Hodgson would both move up a line and we'd see if the kids on the farm are ready. Too bad we have all these NTC to worry about . :D



Trade Edler to Edmonton for Eberle and Schneider + Ballard to CJB for Carter and Dorsett.

Higgens / Carter / Eberle
Burrows / Kesler / Booth
Raymond / Hodgson / Hansen
Lappy / Manny / Dorsett

Sutter / Weber
Hamhuis / Bieksa
Rome / Salo

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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby mr perfect on Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:55 pm

Hockeylover44 wrote:Mr. Perfect is a rage machine, you one of those bandwagon Canuck fans?


Fuck off, troll.
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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby rats19 on Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:43 pm

mr perfect wrote:
Hockeylover44 wrote:Mr. Perfect is a rage machine, you one of those bandwagon Canuck fans?


Fuck off, troll.

I put alot of time and effort into reading all of hl44 post and have come to the very same conclusion as Mr.perfect. :devil:
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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby okcanuck on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:13 pm

I live in the Okanagan where we always thought we had the best weed in N.A, , but obviously we're missing out on the most potent shit ever grown. Tell me where I can get some.

Trade the Sedins? Give me a break. They are 6th and 8th in league scoring.Our next point- getter is Edler for Christs sake. No, leave the team the way it is right now, please.
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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby Overtime on Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:38 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Mondi wrote:Sedins are Art Ross/Hart Caliber players, Suter and Weber never will be.

Suter and Weber are more like Naslund and Bertuzzi, two excellent players. But not superstars.



IMHO a Norris trophy winner is just as important as a Hart trophy winner. Suter and Weber are both elite D-men......easily top 10 in the league and they are both capable of winning a Norris and in Weber's case because he is the more flamboyant player , potentially a Hart if he lands on a team that can fill the net.

The twins are top 10 forwards in the game while the beasts of Nashville are top 10 D-men. If the preds offered Suter and Weber for the twins would you make the deal ? I know I would and I love the twins.



OMG what a choice. At first blush I say no way then I think about it and I say yes. Age alone makes this a good move. I have no idea how we would score goals but I guess kesler and Hodgson would both move up a line and we'd see if the kids on the farm are ready. Too bad we have all these NTC to worry about . :D

Trading the twins really makes me laugh. Trading one of them is even more of a gut buster.
The way they play and especially their resilience to injury makes me think that they will be lacing
up the skates til age Fifty.
When they were in their rookie year and many times afterwards,that year, I saw them take some
serious slams into the boards that I couldnt believe that they recovered from- Instantly.
They were so slim but yet they were like rubber "Gumbies".
The twins are our adopted treasure to our fine city. They even made a HUGE donation to our local
hospital after they signed their nice contracts. (Thanks for re-attempting to sign them Burkie. I
would have picked you up at the airport; then perhaps hopefully I wouldnt have an accident).
So in my train of thought, the Sedin's are here to stay. If their skills decrease and they end up as
second or even third liners again, thats fine with me.
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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby porp on Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:47 pm

Any talk of trading the Sedins now is absolute lunacy both from a hockey and a business standpoint.

However, the interesting bit is, could there ever be a good situation hockey-wise to move the Sedins? They were drafted by this organization, they have been absolutely loyal to be point of taking extremely friendly contracts, one of them is the captain of the team (to the SCF), both of them have won serious awards, and they've made bona fide contributions to this community in both money and time.

Trevor Linden was drafted by this organization, captained the team to the SCF, is an outstanding contributor to the community, and is one of the best-loved players to have ever been part of this team. Yet, he was traded near the end of his career, after being treated rather shabbily what with the signing of Messier after that '94 thing (and was traded back into this team at the very end of his career) for - ultimately - an asset that was used to ensure that both of the Sedin brothers were drafted into this team.

Now, Linden wasn't "lucky" enough to be part of an organization that was a regular season powerhouse and consistently competitive in the post-season, but the Sedins are partially responsible for the current state of the Canucks by being highly skilled (and entertaining) players and by signing extraordinarily reasonable contracts so the organization can recruit high quality players with whom the brothers can play with. They are very obviously not about "the money." They seem like they feel like they have enough*, so now it's about winning for them.

The Sedins have taken ownership of this organization. It's their team. As much as it would be satisfying to see Kesler as Captain (but which I wouldn't agree with), Henrik as captain is entirely fitting. I would be absolutely surprised if the Sedins aren't consulted - or at the very least given a heads up ahead of a move - when the team makes high-impact personnel decisions.

They don't leave this team via trade unless/until they want to.

Based on this team's history with Bure, I highly doubt the current ownership does anything to piss them off. The current brass doesn't seem stupid enough to slay their golden goose.

If we want to see Suter on this team (next year), see if the Sedins think its a good idea and ask them to have a serious talk with Hamhuis about it.

*[small]small[/small] huh, no small tag here - anyway, I knew someone who was in a class at UBC with- and did a group project and got to be friendly with Daniel's (?) then-girlfriend (now spouse) and they imparted to me how friendly and realistic and down to earth she was; she came across as being entirely surprised that she and Dan were suddenly financially super-well off were completely and entirely comfortable. Having even more money was a really weird idea. You know, socialism and all that, similar differences between Sweden and Canada. After a certain point, why would anyone need more money, as long as you don't waste it in a stupid way and use what you have to make sure that you'll always have enough? Or anyway, that was the gist of what this girl imparted to me.
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Re: Trade 1 of the Sedins?

Postby Blob Mckenzie on Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:06 pm

This thread is a train wreck.

I personally was not advocating trading the twins as much as I was pointing out that Mondi was selling Weber and Suter short . Either way the proposed trade would never happen anyways as i couldn't see Nashville or Vancouver signing off on that deal. I just said I would make the trade. :) ..............depending on what Weber and Suter's contracts would look like of course ;)
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