The Weight Gain Challenge

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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby KeyserSoze » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:27 am

Farhan Lalji wrote:Just keep it simple.

-Vary your exercises as much as possible
-Always do something that pushes your body (i.e. weights, sprints, jogs, body exercises)
-Eat as many fruits, vegetables, and grains as you want. If really hungry, don't be afraid to eat a banana or chug down a can of lentil soup.
-Drink 2 litres of water every day

Arachnid wrote:BTW, your nutritional habits are atrocious.

lol, atrocious.

For the average Joe, I think the general tips that Farhan listed, although basic, are quite good.

Exercise in various ways, include some resistance training, eat your fruits, veggies, and grains, drink lots of water.......sounds pretty atrocious

Arachnid wrote:Some fruits have very high sugar content.

Although important, I think too much can sometimes be made of this, expecially when talking about naturally occuring sugars in raw fruit (not added sugars ie juice / fruit canned in syrup / etc, which is a different story)
Most fruit are low GI, so Farhan's "Eat as many fruits, vegetables, and grains as you want" if probably better general advice than "only eat green bananas" (extreme, I know) or something along those lines. I would guess that most people do not eat enough fruit and veggies, so for the average person I would promote eating more, and worry about the naturally occuring sugar levels as a secondary concern.

(BTW - I beleive watermelons have a pretty high GI...so one would be far better off substituting green bananas in your salad recipe :wink: )

Arachnid wrote:Also, as a vegetarian you must know lentils do not contain the complex proteins or iron your body needs or craves...

Lentils are a complimentary protein. Nothing wrong with lentils, they just should not be depended upon alone to fill your bodies protein requirements.

Arachnid wrote:Protein, Fats and carbs balance is essential. Think of it as Body, Mind & Soul...

Agreed!
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby Strangelove » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:09 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:one would be far better off substituting green bananas in your salad recipe :wink: )


Green bananas cause green house gasses. :D
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby Arachnid » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:37 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:lol, atrocious.

For the average Joe, I think the general tips that Farhan listed, although basic, are quite good.

eat your fruits, veggies, and grains, drink lots of water.......sounds pretty atrocious

Although important, I think too much can sometimes be made of this, expecially when talking about naturally occuring sugars in raw fruit (not added sugars ie juice / fruit canned in syrup / etc, which is a different story)
Most fruit are low GI, so Farhan's "Eat as many fruits, vegetables, and grains as you want" if probably better general advice than "only eat green bananas" (extreme, I know) or something along those lines. I would guess that most people do not eat enough fruit and veggies, so for the average person I would promote eating more, and worry about the naturally occuring sugar levels as a secondary concern.


Dear VerbalKint,

Well that's just it. the average GI Joe (<get it GI=Glycemic Index ;) ) nutrition is atrocious. If we are to be ignorant as the the crap we intake then we are no better than that crap (garbage in, garbage out).
So why not go big? Knowledge is not only power but health :)
Only a few things to remember to help you live longer and smarter...

1. Stay away from fructose or high sugar foods. This is why I caution fruits. Not all fruits are created equal. A fruit high in sugar might give you a quick buzz but that can give you an sugar rush addiction and subsequent crash and can also make you overeat afterwards. Vegetables with lower more complex sugars digest longer and steadier. Now that said, playing hockey? Eat a banana or two for quick sugar release.

Between the simple sugars Glucose is better, affecting the blood sugar. Fructose bad, keep it low. Together they are deadly leading to all kinds of health problems. Fructose also creates Uric Acid which can be really bad too depending on your hereditary health and body type.

15 grams is the max you get a day from fruits. More than that just goes to fat for the average dude.
Veggies have complex carbs are of course better butt who wants to just eat veggies... :roll:

List of sugar-fruits taken from http://mercola.com/ excellent health free sign-up site btw

Fruit Serving Size Grams of Fructose
Limes 1 medium 0
Lemons 1 medium 0.6
Cranberries 1 cup 0.7
Passion fruit 1 medium 0.9
Prune 1 medium 1.2
Apricot 1 medium 1.3
Guava 2 medium 2.2
Date
(Deglet Noor style) 1 medium 2.6
Cantaloupe 1/8 of med. melon 2.8
Raspberries 1 cup 3.0
Clementine 1 medium 3.4
Kiwifruit 1 medium 3.4
Blackberries 1 cup 3.5
Star fruit 1 medium 3.6
Cherries, sweet 10 3.8
Strawberries 1 cup 3.8
Cherries, sour 1 cup 4.0
Pineapple 1 slice
(3.5" x .75") 4.0
Grapefruit, pink or red 1/2 medium 4.3
Boysenberries 1 cup 4.6
Tangerine/mandarin orange 1 medium 4.8
Nectarine 1 medium 5.4
Peach 1 medium 5.9
Orange (navel) 1 medium 6.1
Papaya 1/2 medium 6.3
Honeydew 1/8 of med. melon 6.7
Banana 1 medium 7.1
Blueberries 1 cup 7.4
Date (Medjool) 1 medium 7.7
Apple (composite) 1 medium 9.5
Persimmon 1 medium 10.6
Watermelon 1/16 med. melon 11.3
Pear 1 medium 11.8
Raisins 1/4 cup 12.3
Grapes, seedless (green or red) 1 cup 12.4
Mango 1/2 medium 16.2
Apricots, dried 1 cup 16.4
Figs, dried 1 cup 23.0

(BTW - I beleive watermelons have a pretty high GI...so one would be far better off substituting green bananas in your salad recipe)


This is why I posted a grilled watermelon recipe. In food science, heat can change the chemical composition of food. In this case the sugar is burnt off (dehydrated in this case leaving more pulp than sugarwater :) )

2. Eat organic and raw whenever you can. The taste is better, better sustainability, less toxins (pesticides & herbicides). Not all foods have to be organic. Based on taste, budget and availability (local). Less processing the better.

Here is a list of Spidey's essential organic foods based on the amounts of pesticides used and the sometimes porous nature to retain said toxins. Print it out and stick on fridge to read before going shopping!

Peaches
Apples
Capsicums
Celery
Nectarines
Strawberries
Cherries
Kale
Lettuce
Grapes
Carrots
Pears
Collard greens
Spinach
Potato

Foods you can buy non-organic and you won't necessarily die a slow pain ridden death...

Onion
Avocado
Sweet corn
Pineapple
Mango
Asparagus
Sweet peas
Kiwi fruit
Cabbage
Eggplant
Papaya
Watermelon
Broccoli
Tomato
Sweet potato

Meats should always be as organic as possible.

3. Go local. Eat local meats, veggies and fruits. More sustainable and you can meet the producers. You want cheap garlic from China? Go ahead...where does it really come from with what methods? Don't worry, healthy Canada will protect you. :lol:

4. Buy in season fruits and veggies. Do you really need raspberries in February from Chile? Even if organic they are shipped unripe. Learn the nutritional value of local foods. Varies your diet throughout the year.

Lentils are a complimentary protein. Nothing wrong with lentils, they just should not be depended upon alone to fill your bodies protein requirements.


5. Not all protien is created equal. There are complete and incomplete sources of protien. I have researched this alot as this is the area which concerns me the most. Lentils and beans are not the best source of complete protein (eggs are awesome ;) ).
Actually sea vegtables are the best (which I have posted about before).

Soy, especially processed like tofu is not good for you even though high in protein. There are issues with hormones and soya. If you do eat it make it organic. Just not too much. GMO...don't even get me started on that soya...

And remember....Soy is positively evil if not properly fermented 8-)

Sooooo that means no Soya milk, edamame or soya products

I am also a huge supporter of hemp. Great protien if not complete but as with all foods sometimes the additional nutrients it contains is an uberfood :mrgreen: like sea veggies...

6. Cut out bad fats. No fries or deep fried anything (bye bye potato chips hello baked )Balance of good fats like the Omegas...

Arachnid wrote:
Protein, Fats and carbs balance is essential. Think of it as Body, Mind & Soul...

Agreed!


Agreed agreed! :cheers:

Like I said, I am no expert, most of this info is available on the net. Just be careful of the 'credible sites' .
I am lucky enough to have a conversation with my mate about this and is on the same page as me (although I am the organic raw guy, she the nutrient rich one. :mex: )

I will post more health rich recipes for my CC bros who I want more than anyone to live and post forever...
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby Topper » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:55 pm

The bugs in your guts are what digests your food and keeps you running.

Why sweep them out?
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby LotusBlossom » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:00 pm

Topper wrote:The bugs in your guts are what digests your food and keeps you running.

Why sweep them out?


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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby Arachnid » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:35 pm

Topper wrote:The bugs in your guts are what digests your food and keeps you running.

Why sweep them out?


Is that subjective? :hmmm:
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby Arachnid » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:51 am

Forgot to add Spirulina and Chia Sprouts (yes, the same as ChiChiChia Pets™ 8-) ) to the arsenal...more later my victims of health :rockin:
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby Robert » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:26 am

Topper wrote:The bugs in your guts are what digests your food and keeps you running.

Why sweep them out?


Maybe because I've had coffee yet, but what from above would sweep them out?
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby Arachnid » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:45 pm

OK so here is Spidey's balanced nutrient rich shake, it's not commercial and the ingredients change from day to day.
It's great for pre or post workout (or even in place of Viagra OD :lol: )
I usually have it for lunch. Depending on your activity you may wanna add a Cliff or Hemp bar.

2 Cups Almond Milk (it's a little high on the fat so it can be replaced by Rice Milk just not soya or milk)

2 TBL Organic Juice (I recommend Happy Planet Acai Berry Bliss, far better than the Coca Cola owned and deadly sugar laden Tropicana Orange Juices)

2 TBL Organic Greek Yogurt (0% fat lotsa protein)

1 Scoop Hemp powder

1 Organic Banana

1 TBL Sea Veggie

1 TBL Organic Cocoa

1/2 TBL Chia

1 C Frozen Fruits (blueberries, rasberries...)

Blend it bitches and enjoy...far better than the commercial ones such as IsoGenix or *Whey powder crap

*Whey from New Zealand may contain a hellava lot of proteins but also lactose which even if you are not intolerant is harder to digest than the plant based proteins so for better energy go sea-hemp™ baby!

Most of this shit can be found in a health food store but more and more regular grocery stores...It's not the yippie granola munchers like The Don doing this or the extreme jocks like your favourite Canucks but everyday GI Joes like me...

Try and tell me you don't feel better energy during the day instead of a subway gluten drenched sub...
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby LotusBlossom » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:01 am

For those of you looking for good quality meats, non-medicated, grass-fed meats in the Lower Mainland, I love Hopcott's in Pitt Meadows. Great stuff. Pretty self-explanatory.
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby Topper » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:04 am

Robert wrote:
Topper wrote:The bugs in your guts are what digests your food and keeps you running.

Why sweep them out?


Maybe because I've had coffee yet, but what from above would sweep them out?

Earlier in the thread, there is a a series of posts on purges.

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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby KeyserSoze » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:33 am

Arachnid wrote:OK so here is Spidey's balanced nutrient rich shake, it's not commercial and the ingredients change from day to day.
It's great for pre or post workout (or even in place of Viagra OD :lol: )
I usually have it for lunch. Depending on your activity you may wanna add a Cliff or Hemp bar.

Here is what I have been having every morning for the past few weeks:
(It makes 2 smoothies that are about 650ml each, cut it in half for a single portion)

..........
-3 big handfulls of greens (a mixture of different types of kale, collard, chard, dandelion, etc - whatever is on sale) so it fills about half a blender when it's torn up and bunched down.

-1 avodado

-1 banana

-1 apple

-1-2 other portions of fruit (plum, peach, kiwi, pineapple, melon, pear, mango, etc - whatever looks good or is on sale)

-1 lemon without peel

-a bit of raw honey (maybe a tsp or so)

-a bit of ginger without peel (about the size of a dime)
..........

Greens in the bottom (half) of the blender and everything else on top. Pour in cold water until it reaches the top of the greens. Blend for a good 3-5 mins so it gets nice and smooth.

I blend the night before and just keep it in the fridge so they're ready to go in the morning. Not really a meal replacement (although it will fill you up a bit), but a very easy way to get in some extra greens and fruit.
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby Topper » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:43 pm

Uuuuugh.

Just thinking of the colour.
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby KeyserSoze » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:58 am

Topper wrote:Uuuuugh.

Just thinking of the colour.

Meh, it's nothing compared to those tandoori wings...

(You weren't talking about the colour of the drink, right?)
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Re: The Weight Gain Challenge

Postby LotusBlossom » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:54 am

Sounds interesting Keyser, how is the taste? lol

Is it one of those "plug your nose" type of deals?

I eat all that stuff regularly anyway, but looks good :)
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