US Erection 12 *AND* 16

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Reefer2 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:39 pm

Decency is not a word for Trump, unless he is using it to describe a person's attributes.

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:56 pm

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Yup he's Hitler Part Two! :lol:

Give it up Per, the only one buying what you're selling is that schlep Reefer...
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05- ... ened-under
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A photograph of two migrant children sleeping in a cage at an ICE detention facility quickly went viral on Sunday after several prominent liberals tweeted it in a white-hot rage at President Trump's immigration policy.

After a laundry list of journalists and public figures angrily tweeted the photo - including CNN's Hadas Gold, NYT Mag's editor-in-chief Jake Silverstein, Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau and former LA mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, they deleted their tweets in shame when it emerged that the photo was taken in 2014, under Obama.

Indeed - nobody thought to check the date on the attached article, published in June of 2014.
Whoops
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/th ... 327cc39836
March 11, 2015

Young Mexicans are being held for months without charge in shelters across the United States, sometimes without their parents’ knowledge. Since the program began in May, 536 juveniles have been held — 248 of whom have been deported to Mexico after an average stay of 75 days, according to Border Patrol statistics. Mexican authorities say some of these repeat border-crossers have spent as much as six months in U.S. custody while they await an appearance before an immigration judge.
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January 29, 2016

The United States government placed an unknown number of Central American migrant children into the custody of human traffickers after neglecting to run the most basic checks on these so-called “caregivers,” according to a Senate report released on Thursday.
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by ukcanuck » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:55 pm

Per wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:54 pm
Strangelove wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:03 pm
http://fortune.com/2018/06/13/trump-nobel-peace-prize/

President Trump Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Norwegian Lawmakers

U.S. President Donald Trump was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work in reaching an agreement to work toward de-nuclearization of the Korean peninsula.

The U.S leader was nominated by two members of Norway’s governing Progress Party, according to state broadcaster NRK.
8-)
"Nominations for the world’s most coveted prize are open to lawmakers, academics and researchers from around the world. The Nobel Committee in Oslo typically receives hundreds of nominations each year"
It was probably dual American/ Norwegian republicans who saw an easy way to spin the orange shitler’s image.

Plus, if Obama got one then shitler should have two...

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:03 pm

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Cornuck » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:54 pm

Doc, even an orange-shitgibbon-worshiping fanboy as yourself must know the difference between children arriving alone at the border, and separating families just for leverage on a ridiculous wall...
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:47 am

Cornuck wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:54 pm
Doc, even an orange-shitgibbon-worshiping fanboy as yourself must know the difference between children arriving alone at the border, and separating families just for leverage on a ridiculous wall...
Was Obama wanting to build a wall when he did it?

(you bet your sweet bippy he "separated families")

Is Trudeau trying to build a wall?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal ... -1.4709632

We get waaay less up here, but we follow a similar policy... in fact most of "the free world" does.

Those parents that break the law by sneaking in (rather than using a legal point of entry) get what they get.

If someone like Reefer and his wife broke the law in some fashion and were arrested, their "family would be separated" as well.

Such is life...
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Cornuck » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:04 am

Strangelove wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:47 am
Was Obama wanting to build a wall when he did it?
(you bet your sweet bippy he "separated families")
The idea that this is simply a continuation of an Obama-era practice is "preposterous," said Denise Gilman, director of the Immigration Clinic at the University of Texas Law School. "There were occasionally instances where you would find a separated family — maybe like one every six months to a year — and that was usually because there had been some actual individualized concern that there was a trafficking situation or that the parent wasn’t actually the parent."

Once custody concerns were resolved, "there was pretty immediately reunification," Gilman told NBC News. "There were not 2,000 kids in two months — it’s not the same universe," she added.
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Island Nucklehead » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:06 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:47 am

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal ... -1.4709632

We get waaay less up here, but we follow a similar policy... in fact most of "the free world" does.
Nice case of "whataboutism".
Last year, 151 minors were detained with their parents in Canadian immigration holding centres. Eleven others were held in custody unaccompanied by an adult.
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[They] get what they get.
Take their kids away, that will scare the rest off coming (and maybe force funding for the wall). Nothing more than repulsive child abuse to score points with the tough on immigrants racist base.

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:16 pm

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /10798643/
Immigrant kids detained in warehouse of humanity

Michael Kiefer, The Arizona Republic Published 5:21 p.m. ET June 18, 2014

The number changes daily, and more than 47,000 migrant kids primarily from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador have entered the country and been caught since Oct. 1

At 11 a.m. MST Wednesday, they briefly opened the center up to the media.

The facility itself is enormous, about the size of a football field.

It has 18-foot-high chain-link fences topped with razor wire dividing the children by age and gender, one area for kids 12 and younger, areas each for boys and girls ages 13 to 15, and still more for boys and girls ages 16 and 17. Nylon tarps tied to the fences provide a modicum of privacy between the groups.

The entire facility has the feel of the livestock areas at a state fair. Inside it smells of feet, sweat and straw.
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:21 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:06 pm
Nice case of "whataboutism".
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Parents who break the law tend to get separated from their children, see my Reefer + wife scenario...
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Island Nucklehead » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:26 pm

How many of those minors were accompanied across the border?

(linked through your article) https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /10798643/
The group was part of the recent surge of unaccompanied minors who are streaming into this hot, flat stretch of South Texas, overwhelming Border Patrol facilities and sparking heated debate in Washington over what's causing the crisis and how to handle it.
Some lawmakers, however, argue the youths – and the smuggling rings bringing them in – are exploiting U.S. policy, which allows youngsters from Central American countries other than Mexico to be released to an adult living in the USA while awaiting their court hearing.

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Island Nucklehead wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:06 pm
Nice case of "whataboutism".
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Parents who break the law tend to get separated from their children, see my Reefer + wife scenario...
Not those entering Canada illegally. In almost all cases they are detained WITH their children.

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:38 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:26 pm
Not those entering Canada illegally. In almost all cases they are detained WITH their children.
American laws are different... and btw Lord Trump is merely enforcing existing laws.

I was responding to Corn, he said "separating families"

- under Obama they often let the moms remain with the kids, but not the dads = "separating families"

"almost all cases" - So Canada does it in some cases.

America's immigration problems are a bazillion times worse than those of Canada...
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Island Nucklehead » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:48 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:38 pm
"almost all cases" - So Canada does it in some cases.
Apparently (from in the CBC article you quoted) 6% of those youth detained in Canada are held unaccompanied. Do you think the ratio is similar to the US? You should compare apples to apples, not apples to (son-of orange-haired) Orangutans.

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:49 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:48 pm
Strangelove wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:38 pm
"almost all cases" - So Canada does it in some cases.
Apparently (from in the CBC article you quoted) 6% of those youth detained in Canada are held unaccompanied. Do you think the ratio is similar to the US? You should compare apples to apples, not apples to (son-of orange-haired) Orangutans.
As I said, the law is different in America...
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:50 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:26 pm
(linked through your article) https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /10798643/
The group was part of the recent surge of unaccompanied minors
Article also says "Border agents caught almost 25,000 unaccompanied minors in fiscal year 2013".

(the year before the surge)

Yes it surged to 47,000 the next fiscal year, but the more-usual 25,000 is still a lot of kids held in detention, separated from their parents

... under Obama.
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