US Erection 12 *AND* 16

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Per » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:10 am

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At what point does the rest of the free world give trump the swinging middle finger in the air and start excluding Americans from trade deals?

I mean if the US is slapping tariffs on everyone else who are in the same businesses, why not a Canada/ Mexico/ EU deal on steel and aluminum in a combined retaliation?

Seems logical to me that if trump keeps pushing away trade partners, he is also pushing those same trade partners together?
Yup. There are voices declaring that as the US is becoming increasingly unreliable as a partner; not living up to its commitments, withdrawing from signed treaties, etc, the EU should instead try to increase trade and cooperation with China.

And we already did sign a free trade agreement with Canada.
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Per » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:50 am

The republican standpoint:
“My position remains unchanged: Tariffs on steel and aluminum imports are a tax hike on Americans and will have damaging consequences for consumers, manufacturers and workers. We should build on our success in overhauling the nation's tax code with complementary trade policies that, rather than favoring one narrow industry, make all sectors of the US economy more competitive. In light of the mounting evidence that these tariffs will harm Americans, I will continue to push the administration to change course.”
Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the President Pro Tempore of the United States Senate and Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Per » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:26 am

The EU response, 25% tariffs on 890 US products, including motorcycles, yachts, jeans, bed linen, tobacco, corn, rice, cranberries, bourbon, peanut butter and orange juice.
http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2 ... 156909.pdf

And a 10% tariff on playing cards.

See if you can trump that. :drink:

The EU measures will primarily punish industries in states that voted for Trump in 2016, which according to EU trade commissionary Cecilia Markström is purely coincidental. :wink:
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Cornuck » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:56 am

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Reefer2 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:06 am

Shows that Trump is either a) trying to deflect the investigation into Russia b) he really has no idea of what he is doing but loves playing king and having everyone obey him.

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Per » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:24 am

Reefer2 wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:06 am
Shows that Trump is either a) trying to deflect the investigation into Russia b) he really has no idea of what he is doing but loves playing king and having everyone obey him.

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No, this is how he runs his businesses.

He ignores what the contracts stipulate, refuses to make good on it, renogotiates to pay cents on the dollars, declares bankrupcy and walks away unscathed while his contractors and business partners go belly up. And then brags about it.

Unfortunately, if he does the same thing in international politics, the USA will end up as his old Atlantic City casinos... :?

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by micky107 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:13 am

Maybe everyone should just calm the hell down!
They say everything happens for a reason. Na! scratch that one. Didn't need to fall off the ruff. (that's a joke).
We actually need a kick in the butt.
We tend to take the easy ways out in Canada and that wasn't always the case.
Besides. He's gonna back off anyways. (one way or another).
Remember; It was an election promise, so why freak now.

We can and should expand industries, open new doors.
Hell: Even start selling our finished products again.
And while I'm at it, (spewing off), we don't need f--king foreign worker programs to do it. :evil:
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Topper » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:59 pm

Per wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:56 am

If it is all about Nafta, why include China and the EU? :hmmm:
Canada just lost its exemption this week. Rather than go through the usual dispute channels, Canada responded with very specific tariffs targeting industries and products from states critical to Trump and his senior supporters. For example chocolate - Hersey Pennsylvania, Trump needs Pennsylvania. Bourbon - Tennessee for similar reasons.
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by SKYO » Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:12 pm

Taking bets on when Trump gets impeached or he steps down.
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:58 pm

SKYO wrote:
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Taking bets on when Trump gets impeached or he steps down.
Lol, not gunna happen.

Besides I don't think the Dems want brother Pence at the helm. :D
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:00 pm

Per wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:24 am
Reefer2 wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:06 am
Shows that Trump is either a) trying to deflect the investigation into Russia b) he really has no idea of what he is doing but loves playing king and having everyone obey him.

WPE
No, this is how he runs his businesses.

He ignores what the contracts stipulate, refuses to make good on it, renogotiates to pay cents on the dollars, declares bankrupcy and walks away unscathed while his contractors and business partners go belly up. And then brags about it.

Unfortunately, if he does the same thing in international politics, the USA will end up as his old Atlantic City casinos... :?

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by SKYO » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:57 pm

The Simpsons predicted him in, but they also predicted his death. dammmmmmmmmmmmmmn
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Per » Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:17 am

The G7 summit might become interesting, seeing as Trump has done his best to piss off the other six...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... y-hegemony

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06 ... -canada-g7
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Reefer2 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:02 pm

WPE

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

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